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Sometimes just keeping it simple is the best way to go.
I am on my phone at work so links are hard to do quickly. But, for what you seem to be planning a nice cheap combo pump/res from Xspc will do the trick.

If you go pump and res to the CPU then to the bottom rad then to the front one then back to the res would be fine. I would just go in one big circle and don't criss cross the case unless needed.

I prefer high flow water blocks. So the Xspc raystorm block imo is a good block. Any way you go there shouldn't be a big difference. Just keep the loop simple and clean.

The AlphaCool st30 rads have rather good reviews. They are 30mm thick or if there is space go for the 45mm one. More is always better. Alpha cool rads are usually 7 fpi so they work well with low speed fans.

great, thanks for the info.

i would have thought that the cpu would come after the radiator (not reservoir) since that is where the water is at its coolest
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Well, water cooling doesn't exactly work like that in a sense. The water might be slightly warmer after the pump or CPU block but not enough to make a difference.
Water slowly gets warmer. As it gets warmer it holds its temp longer. The fads dissipate the heat but not fast like you would think. Water is very gradual increase or decrease. So, it only matters that you have rads capable of getting that heat out of the water efficiently with good airflow over the rads.

It won't really matter where in the loop the rads are in comparison to the other components as long as you have good air flow and enouh rad to properly get rid of the heat.

edit: I am putting it in a very simple way. If you want to learn more on how water actually cools the system research T-Delta or was it Y-Delta. It should explain how the heat transfer works in a water loop.
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thanks again for the replies and suggestions.

It sounds like 2 different 120mm setups would be good and better than what i have now but I am not sure it is worth the trouble.

So I am thinking:
I can get a 2x120 Black Ice pro (25mm) radiator with 2 thin (20mm or <) fans in push (or pull)/exhaust mode on the top spot and just clear the mobo and 8pin.
Or, would it be better to use a thicker 120 with push and pull in another location instead of the skinny 2x120 with only push or pull.

Then I would also have a 120 push/pull intake in the top hardrive bay spot like this

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Then for a reservoir and pump (I am lost so far) maybe something like this XSPC Dual 5.25" in the lowest 5-1/4 bay.

or that Monsoon

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And again i am lost for cpu block. maybe something like this EK Supremacy

or the Raystorm

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For flow I was thinking:
5.25" pump resevoir -->> 120 push pull top harddrive cage area -->> CPU -->> 2x120 top of case push/exhaust radiator -->>pump/resevoir.
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Wait, a 3930K? I highly, highly recommend the Swiftech Apogee HD block for the SNB-E CPU's over any other block, especially those like the Raystorm; not only is performance better, but consistency between mounts is phenomenal, and I have yet to even hear rumors of a better mounting system than that of the LGA2011-equipped Apogee HD!

It has a HUGE cold-plate compared to other blocks, which really matters quite a bit considering how much bigger the 3930K's IHS is compared to SNB (2500K/2600K) or IVB (3570K/3770K), and it doesn't have nearly as strong of a "bow" as the Raystorm. I have found that the Apogee HD nets about 3C consistently better temps than the Raystorm on the LGA2011 chips, although the Raystorm does better on the LGA1155 chips.

Trust me on this, or if you don't, then read Martin's review of it!!!!
   
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I want to refer you to the HardOCP review of this case. They have some good pics with what setups you can try.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/08/08/corsair_obsidian_series_550d_midtower_case_review/5#.UYIA3j4uNcc


My next suggestion might be overkill but I would grab one of those new Monsoon res's. http://www.frozencpu.com/products/19676/ex-res-490/Monsoon_Series_Two_Premium_D5_MCP655_Dual_Bay_Reservoir_w_Quick_Change_LED_Control_-_Matte_Black_w_Black_Trim_M2-D5P-MB.html?tl=g30c97s168
Buy from whatever retailer you want I just linked so you knew what I was talking about.
I would add a MCP655 variable speed pump so you can adjust the flow of the pump. For low restriction blocks and the Alpha Cool rads a setting of 3 or less will almost no matter what be more than plenty for a short loop.

thanks I did just that!


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Wait, a 3930K? I highly, highly recommend the Swiftech Apogee HD block for the SNB-E CPU's over any other block, especially those like the Raystorm; not only is performance better, but consistency between mounts is phenomenal, and I have yet to even hear rumors of a better mounting system than that of the LGA2011-equipped Apogee HD!

It has a HUGE cold-plate compared to other blocks, which really matters quite a bit considering how much bigger the 3930K's IHS is compared to SNB (2500K/2600K) or IVB (3570K/3770K), and it doesn't have nearly as strong of a "bow" as the Raystorm. I have found that the Apogee HD nets about 3C consistently better temps than the Raystorm on the LGA2011 chips, although the Raystorm does better on the LGA1155 chips.

Trust me on this, or if you don't, then read Martin's review of it!!!!

thanks for the recommendation! I went with the Apogee and am liking it.


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Grats on the new setup. I actually purchased the Swiftech Apogee HD just the other day myself after doing a bit more research.
I have not fully decided on 2011 or 1150 socket yet so felt it was a safe bet with my new build.

I am not real familiar with XSPC rads, how thick are those? How many fins per inch and what fans did you use?
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Grats on the new setup. I actually purchased the Swiftech Apogee HD just the other day myself after doing a bit more research.
I have not fully decided on 2011 or 1150 socket yet so felt it was a safe bet with my new build.

I am not real familiar with XSPC rads, how thick are those? How many fins per inch and what fans did you use?

thanks.

I am using Scythe Gentle Typhoon AP-15 Push/pull controlled by a fan controller.

I chose both the radiators for their size. Th XSPC was as big as I could go without hitting my RAM and getting in the way of the tube off the cpu block (otherwise I would have used 2 Monstas). and the Monsta was as big as I could go without more modding (of the drive bays etc)

This is the XSPC, it is ~58mm thick and is 8fpi.
The Monsta is 80mm thick and I think 14fpi
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