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post #11 of 22
If you go small form factor I know that Asus and Gigabyte boards bother have WiDi built in.
post #12 of 22
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Their WiDi is from the mini PCIe cards they've got.pre-mounted. Depending on the models, I'm definitely for picking up one of their boards, but I'm waiting for the Haswell thin mini ITX models first. My only worry about going with OEM solutions is that they usually go with the cheapy models in the interest of high volume cost savings. I would most likely go with the Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 7260;

Bluetooth 4.0
Intel Smart Connect, ie auto updating email, social networking etc. while the PC sleeps.
802.11ac 300/867 Mbps
and of course, WiDi

and at $20-30 a piece, I don't mind picking up my own module.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by phill1978 View Post

did you think about putting the htpc behind the tv in a really small case?

Yeah, I've setup SFF PC's that way in the past for clients, but that's not quite the solution I want to go with here. I want the HTPC with the rest of the audio equipment for ease of access and better control.
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So Haswell apparently dropped with Wireless Display 4.1 baked in, not that they are particularly forthcoming with what exactly 4.1 offers. Intel still hasn't even listed it on their own WiDi version page.
During their Haswell release, they mentioned a few vague improvements:


Edited by AMv8(1day) - 6/7/13 at 10:33am
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Quick update for anyone besides me that cares:

I've been holding off on this project until the desired parts came to market. Specifically, an LGA 1150 Thin Mini ITX motherboard: ECS H87H3-TI (V1.0), I would've much preferred Gigabyte, Intel, Asus, or even ASRock, but a few months into Haswell and no other options in the Thin Mini ITX space, so beggars can't be choosers. And a good proc for the job: Intel i3-4130T.

Yaaaaay! All my problems are solved! Right?
Yeah, one, the lowest end 35W TDP CPU is still unnecessarily over inflated in price, and two, the board meets my needs on paper, but it's an ECS board...
Whatever, on with the fun right? Well I'm still waiting to hear back from Mini-Case/ReaLAN/whatever, company that makes, or at least distributes the case I want; the E-Q3i, may be discontinuing the case with no alternative supplier in sight.
But wait! Streacom just started releasing pre-sale samples of their new Streacom FC2 Evo case at 1.665L (vs 1.98L with the E-Q3i)! Sweet looking case and supposedly still able to carry 2 2.5" HDD's, of course it's a Streacom, so the price is going to skyrocket.
Of course, so will the quality, and with this case, we get fanless cooling! Unfortunately, you have to basically put the entire case together piece by piece, including attaching the heatpipes, AAANNNDDD, there are little guarantees that the custom style CPU mount will line up perfectly with the ECS CPU positioning. Sounds very involving, but hey, who builds sub 2.0L PC's because they're easy?

All in all, some pluses and some minuses here. Mostly price and case incompatibility minuses, but we will see when Streacom actually releases the case for sale. This may end up being a $1.5k build, but it'll be a damn nice one!
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post #16 of 22
I would think there's a good chance the CPU socket will line up, I think the position is governed by the ATX specs but I'm not sure.

I still don't see what's so great about WiDi that its worth compromising a $1.5k system with a dodgy motherboard but if its something you want to try I understand that! Does the fact that the big brands haven't jumped on the WiDi band wagon not suggest they might not have a lot of faith in it? Don't know but personally I'd just stick with an HDMI lead although I've always been one for function over form!

Case looks sweet as, I'm guessing it needs an external power brick though?

Good hunting!
 
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Does it need to be a haswell CPU? There are plenty of socket 1155 motherboards with WiDi
 
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Guy's, WiDi is just a side function of the latest gen of Wifi/BT miniPCIe cards. The way Bluetooth, Wifi Direct, and wireless hotspot functionality all come from the same module. Haswell chips support it, as does Ivy Bridge, but it's a continuously evolving tech. Haswell has support for the latest revision baked in, but that just provides the support. The mPCIe card is what provides that hardware; antenna, Wireless chip, etc. I'm not picking a dodgy board because it's the only one with a wifi chip. I'm picking it because it's the only LGA 1150 thin mini ITX board on the market. I'm going for smallest, most powerful 35W chip on the market, elegant Mac Mini rivaling design, silent, no compromises, wire free display, not just another SFF ITX board in a cheap case.
I've tried as best I could to clean up some misconceptions and gaps in peoples knowledge base on WiDi in my opening post. Complete with links to all pertinent info on the subject.
But just check this thing out:

And tell me that wouldn't look sweet sitting on your coffee table, or on the TV stand, with no cables leading up to the TV. Now think about the workstation grade processing behind an i7-4765T, totally silent, and in a 1.665L case, barely bigger than a Mac mini. With this case, and the right board, you could run a 4 core, 8 threaded proc, 16 GB's of RAM, a 120-256GB mSATA SSD, and as much as 4 TB's of storage. All in one little case, running off of a little 90W laptop brick.
Edited by AMv8(1day) - 10/3/13 at 1:25am
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post #19 of 22
love it - do it! let us know how you get on!

Have intel fixed their 23.967Hz playback bug yet?
 
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So I bought I Asus laptop for my wife it doesn't have a 5GHz card in it and I have already read it might not have 2 antennas. I want her laptop to support WiDi.

Do I need both antenna for WiDi? Because if one of the Antenna's is for 5GHz I am ok without having 5GHz.

Also is this "INTEL AC 7260 WIRELESS MINI PCIe ADAPTER CARD 802.11 AC WIFI BLUETOOTH 4.0" The most current card?

I built a distributed video network in my home and we can watch any source that as is plugged into my surround processor on any TV in the house. Problem is that all that equipment is in a closet. I want to be able to have my Wife's laptop be able to display anything that is on it to my surround processor.

I also want to add WiDi to my PC which has a ASRock Z87 Formula OC so I should be able to do it right?

That or pull (2) cat 6 cables from the PC to the equipment closet to do HDMI over Ethernet.
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Corsair Link Fan Controller Windows 8.1 Nixeus 2560x1440 Logitech G15 
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Kingwin PF-850 Ttesports Level10M Razer Vespula Sennheiser HD590 
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Intel i5-2500k gigabyte z68xp-ud4 Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 Gaming DDR3 1600 4x2GB 
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Western Digital Velociraptor 300GB w/ Intel RST... Corsair H100 Windows 8.1 1920x1200 HP 
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PC P+C 1000w 
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