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So Hello there =)

I dont Read every single Post but that is some kind of Interresting.. Rigth now I´m Searching for the Monsoon Stuff but couldnt find it somewhere exept parts of the whole Package =)

So I browsed 2 hrs or so an didnt get a Store that lists all Monsoon Parts...Tube´s Fitting´s and The Tool-kit. Is there something I´ve missed or am I just to Stupid for Searching tongue.gif

THX 4 Help biggrin.gif

I don't believe that the fittings and tubing have been released yet, just the bending kits so far.
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So Hello there =)

I dont Read every single Post but that is some kind of Interresting.. Rigth now I´m Searching for the Monsoon Stuff but couldnt find it somewhere exept parts of the whole Package =)

So I browsed 2 hrs or so an didnt get a Store that lists all Monsoon Parts...Tube´s Fitting´s and The Tool-kit. Is there something I´ve missed or am I just to Stupid for Searching tongue.gif

THX 4 Help biggrin.gif

Was asked only a few posts back tongue.gif
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Anyone knows when the hardline kit will hit the European market?
Aquatuning is the distributor for Monsoon in mainland Europe, and only orders sporadically. WatercoolingUK is distributor for UK. Geno said on Xtremesystems forum that there have been no orders yet for Europe.

You can better email AT and/or WCUK and ask their intentions. If they know people are interested in Hardline, they may order some, but if no one inquires then I think they won't bother.

I will email Aquatuning later.
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Thanks for the vids B NEGATIVE. I'll definately pick up a kit when I do my next loop maintenance, and change my tubing color. I'm satisfied on how my loop turned out with my free-hand bends... but this kit and your vids will definately help and make bending a lot easier.thumb.gif
    
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Thanks for the vids B NEGATIVE. I'll definately pick up a kit when I do my next loop maintenance, and change my tubing color. I'm satisfied on how my loop turned out with my free-hand bends... but this kit and your vids will definately help and make bending a lot easier.thumb.gif

Not my vids mate,thats Geno from Monsoon walking you thru the kit he designed.
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Not my vids mate,thats Geno from Monsoon walking you thru the kit he designed.
Sorry... I meant posting links to the vids on the OP.smile.gif
Very helpful...thumb.gif
    
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I dont use workstation cards for the rendering,I farm it all to the CPU's,24 cores= done very quickly. Why do you think SW needs a WS card?
I also game on my SR2....

Manufacturer's System Requirements page

http://www.solidworks.com/sw/support/videocardtesting.html

Tomshardware reviews ....Note they included gaming cards for Maya on the preceding page and all the CAD stuff....but indicate "Gaming Cards Not Supported" in the table.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-workstation-graphics-card,3493-9.html
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SolidWorks 2013 is limited to workstation-class graphics cards. Unfortunately, the drivers we're using won't install on gaming boards, so we cannot include them. Additionally, if the software is run with non-certified drivers, there's supposed to be a quantifiable performance hit. The only exception is the version used by SPECapc 2013, which supposedly allows full use of SolidWorks 2013 whether the driver you're running is certified or not. We didn't bother testing, but rather used the certified drivers for this story.

I am aware you can overcome the driver issue, at least could in the past, but working and working effectively are two different things.
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I dont use workstation cards for the rendering,I farm it all to the CPU's,24 cores= done very quickly. Why do you think SW needs a WS card?
I also game on my SR2....

Manufacturer's System Requirements page

http://www.solidworks.com/sw/support/videocardtesting.html

Tomshardware reviews ....Note they included gaming cards for Maya on the preceding page and all the CAD stuff....but indicate "Gaming Cards Not Supported" in the table.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-workstation-graphics-card,3493-9.html
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SolidWorks 2013 is limited to workstation-class graphics cards. Unfortunately, the drivers we're using won't install on gaming boards, so we cannot include them. Additionally, if the software is run with non-certified drivers, there's supposed to be a quantifiable performance hit. The only exception is the version used by SPECapc 2013, which supposedly allows full use of SolidWorks 2013 whether the driver you're running is certified or not. We didn't bother testing, but rather used the certified drivers for this story.

I am aware you can overcome the driver issue, at least could in the past, but working and working effectively are two different things.
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Ive been a solidworks power user since release 97, im both certified and spend approx 6 hours of billable time on it per day. Ive used both high end nvidia gaming cards and nvidia workstation class cards and can assure you that both will work. there are some features that are intentionally crippled in the gaming card graphics driver (like realview) but aside from that - a good gaming card does everything quite well. For anyone who chooses to use a gaming with Solidworks, remember that you have a failsafe built into the software called "use software OpenGL". Its located in the options --> performance tab.


A decent gaming card has more then enough horsepower to power even heavy assemblies, games like crysis are far more demanding on hardware then your solidworks model.
On the flip side, most workstation cards run games terribly; in fact I have yet to experience an exception.

From a Solidworks user.

I found this to be applicable to me also.

Solidworks doesnt require a WS card,I have been using it for years without one. Will it run better with a WS? In heavy assembly work,yes. But the difference is minor.
You should check the Solidworks forums rather than using Tom's......
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Let me thow in an amateur question, if it has not yet been answered.

When you have your whole system with acrylic working, how do you solve any leakage or hardware change? I mean, it is all made for a perfect fit, and since it is rigid, you cant just say lift a block to change the cpu... The pipes will not bend. How do you empty the system?

To explain myself, i am an amateur that yet has to build his first loop, and this is not a critical question, i like acrylic tubing and just want to be on the safe side.
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Let me thow in an amateur question, if it has not yet been answered.

When you have your whole system with acrylic working, how do you solve any leakage or hardware change? I mean, it is all made for a perfect fit, and since it is rigid, you cant just say lift a block to change the cpu... The pipes will not bend. How do you empty the system?

To explain myself, i am an amateur that yet has to build his first loop, and this is not a critical question, i like acrylic tubing and just want to be on the safe side.

Lol, no problem. First off, you drain your system just like normal, with a drain plug that you should have plumbed into your system, hopefully near its lowest point.

As to changing a block or such, yes, it's isn't as easy to do as flexible tube, but the "rigid" acrylic tubing does have a little bit of "spring" in it, so you have the tiniest amount of give in it to undo your fitting and pull out one end of the tube, then the other end will come out easily. Remember, if it was assembled, it can be un-assembled!!
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Let me thow in an amateur question, if it has not yet been answered.

When you have your whole system with acrylic working, how do you solve any leakage or hardware change? I mean, it is all made for a perfect fit, and since it is rigid, you cant just say lift a block to change the cpu... The pipes will not bend. How do you empty the system?

To explain myself, i am an amateur that yet has to build his first loop, and this is not a critical question, i like acrylic tubing and just want to be on the safe side.

Lol, no problem. First off, you drain your system just like normal, with a drain plug that you should have plumbed into your system, hopefully near its lowest point.

As to changing a block or such, yes, it's isn't as easy to do as flexible tube, but the "rigid" acrylic tubing does have a little bit of "spring" in it, so you have the tiniest amount of give in it to undo your fitting and pull out one end of the tube, then the other end will come out easily. Remember, if it was assembled, it can be un-assembled!!

So basicaly, every change you do on acrylic system has to be done with it drained out... Im just hoping i will have my ideal hardware untill i start building the loop then... Sounds like a dangerous pain in the behind to do anything afterwards smile.gif

My plan is to build it in a Node 304 itx case. The mobo is on the floor. So the drain plug should be drilled through the floor to be near the lowest point LoL.
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