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Let me thow in an amateur question, if it has not yet been answered.

When you have your whole system with acrylic working, how do you solve any leakage or hardware change? I mean, it is all made for a perfect fit, and since it is rigid, you cant just say lift a block to change the cpu... The pipes will not bend. How do you empty the system?

To explain myself, i am an amateur that yet has to build his first loop, and this is not a critical question, i like acrylic tubing and just want to be on the safe side.

Lol, no problem. First off, you drain your system just like normal, with a drain plug that you should have plumbed into your system, hopefully near its lowest point.

As to changing a block or such, yes, it's isn't as easy to do as flexible tube, but the "rigid" acrylic tubing does have a little bit of "spring" in it, so you have the tiniest amount of give in it to undo your fitting and pull out one end of the tube, then the other end will come out easily. Remember, if it was assembled, it can be un-assembled!!

This.

Leakage should be a non issue if you have tested the loop for watertightness.
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So basicaly, every change you do on acrylic system has to be done with it drained out... Im just hoping i will have my ideal hardware untill i start building the loop then... Sounds like a dangerous pain in the behind to do anything afterwards smile.gif

My plan is to build it in a Node 304 itx case. The mobo is on the floor. So the drain plug should be drilled through the floor to be near the lowest point LoL.
Lol, if that's how you want it, sure. wink.gif but I would plumb a drain into the outlet of the pump with a T fitting and valve personally, an ITX system is thankfully light, so holding it at an angle to drain it wouldn't be as hard as say, a full ATX tower. There are always trade offs to going tiny!
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Let me thow in an amateur question, if it has not yet been answered.

When you have your whole system with acrylic working, how do you solve any leakage or hardware change? I mean, it is all made for a perfect fit, and since it is rigid, you cant just say lift a block to change the cpu... The pipes will not bend. How do you empty the system?

To explain myself, i am an amateur that yet has to build his first loop, and this is not a critical question, i like acrylic tubing and just want to be on the safe side.

Lol, no problem. First off, you drain your system just like normal, with a drain plug that you should have plumbed into your system, hopefully near its lowest point.

As to changing a block or such, yes, it's isn't as easy to do as flexible tube, but the "rigid" acrylic tubing does have a little bit of "spring" in it, so you have the tiniest amount of give in it to undo your fitting and pull out one end of the tube, then the other end will come out easily. Remember, if it was assembled, it can be un-assembled!!

This.

Leakage should be a non issue if you have tested the loop for watertightness.

I should test the loop outside the box right? If true, i have to dissassemble it to fit onto the hardware... Then i am back to square one.

Unless you ment using the toilet paper to wrap the fittings...
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Let me thow in an amateur question, if it has not yet been answered.

When you have your whole system with acrylic working, how do you solve any leakage or hardware change? I mean, it is all made for a perfect fit, and since it is rigid, you cant just say lift a block to change the cpu... The pipes will not bend. How do you empty the system?

To explain myself, i am an amateur that yet has to build his first loop, and this is not a critical question, i like acrylic tubing and just want to be on the safe side.

Lol, no problem. First off, you drain your system just like normal, with a drain plug that you should have plumbed into your system, hopefully near its lowest point.

As to changing a block or such, yes, it's isn't as easy to do as flexible tube, but the "rigid" acrylic tubing does have a little bit of "spring" in it, so you have the tiniest amount of give in it to undo your fitting and pull out one end of the tube, then the other end will come out easily. Remember, if it was assembled, it can be un-assembled!!

This.

Leakage should be a non issue if you have tested the loop for watertightness.

I should test the loop outside the box right? If true, i have to dissassemble it to fit onto the hardware... Then i am back to square one.

Unless you ment using the toilet paper to wrap the fittings...

Leaktest with everything fitted in place.
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I should test the loop outside the box right? If true, i have to dissassemble it to fit onto the hardware... Then i am back to square one.

Unless you ment using the toilet paper to wrap the fittings...
When you do a leak test, you are testing all the blocks and fittings inside your case after everything is mounted and "ready" to use. A leak test should always be done with JUST your pump being powered, and NOTHING else. That way, if there does happen to be a leak from a faulty block, or loose fitting or something, you don't fry your expensive hardware.
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Magoo...like a boss.



Some shots from PARVUM's MAGNUS build that i went down to do some bendwork for while they got to work on my res for the S3



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You should check the Solidworks forums rather than using Tom's......

The software vendors lack of support was the key issue .....performance numbers on Toms and other sites were secondary tho in older tests (pre nVidia cutting GPGPU performance on gaming cards) nVidia did fairlry well .... now AMD has the edge there.

Again, Manufacturer's System Requirements page
http://www.solidworks.com/sw/support/videocardtesting.html
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Ive been a solidworks power user since release 97, im both certified and spend approx 6 hours of billable time on it per day. Ive used both high end nvidia gaming cards and nvidia workstation class cards and can assure you that both will work.

There's the key .... I woukld have 0 billable hours as all government and corporate clients require deliverables in dwg format. Not really something oft used in my industry. It would just be something I farted around with once and a while for refinements in my own product designs.
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You should check the Solidworks forums rather than using Tom's......

The software vendors lack of support was the key issue .....performance numbers on Toms and other sites were secondary tho in older tests (pre nVidia cutting GPGPU performance on gaming cards) nVidia did fairlry well .... now AMD has the edge there.

Again, Manufacturer's System Requirements page
http://www.solidworks.com/sw/support/videocardtesting.html
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Ive been a solidworks power user since release 97, im both certified and spend approx 6 hours of billable time on it per day. Ive used both high end nvidia gaming cards and nvidia workstation class cards and can assure you that both will work.

There's the key .... I woukld have 0 billable hours as all government and corporate clients require deliverables in dwg format. Not really something oft used in my industry. It would just be something I farted around with once and a while for refinements in my own product designs.

I totally agree,there is no support for gaming cards from Dassault Systemes but I mentioned that already,if you are in a 'mission critical' work environment then go workstation purely for the support

DWG? Solidworks is no good for you then,exporting/importing files is not its strong point.

That MSR is like a mobo QVL list for RAM.....worthless.
Solidworks doesnt even bother to test gaming cards,which is understandable from their point of view. Doesnt mean they dont work,there is very little difference between the WS card and Gaming card. The 7970 and firepro cards are so close that they share the same waterblock.


Seeing as I actually use Solidworks with gaming cards pretty much seals the whole 'it works' for me.

My PROT07YPE worklog is all Solidworks...





Res for my S3.





All on my SR2.
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The acrylic tubing work in the Magnus before was pretty terrible. Are you redoing any of the interior runs?

Got my bending kit this afternoon finally.

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