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Originally Posted by IT Diva View Post

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I can offer my recent experience with the Monsoon 5/8" tubing;

The fittings looked shallow and spindly, and with thin threads on the thin aluminum caps, I was a bit apprehensive . . . . until I worked out a bit of an installation routine

One thing to be watchful of, is that each fitting has a rubber o ring that compresses as the cap is tightened, there is also a clear plastic washer that goes between the o ring and the cap, so the cap doesn't friction directly against the rubber o ring.

Those plastic washers have a very thin film of plastic on them, like the protective film on a new fan controller display or similar.

That film, if you don't take it off, has the potential to get twisted under the o ring and causing a leak that's really hard to sleuth out.

The plastic washers, if you're not looking for them and paying attention, will fall out and be lost.

When it comes to tightening the fittings, you have to really tighten the base G1/4 part first and really secure it, if you want to be able to unscrew the cap without backing out the whole fitting.

Once you have the base installed, I found that taking a Q-tip with a tiny bit of silicone grease and lubricating the cap threads . . . on the perimeter of the BASE, not in the cap, lets it go on tighter for better compression, and it also comes off easier if you have to take it back off . . . . just lube the threads lightly, and not the o ring . . . or the tubing.


I was already used to using the Monsoon bending kit for 1/2" tube, so I got the 5/8" mandrel set when I got the 5/8" tube.

I found the 5/8 tube bends as easily as 1/2, and there was no special tricks needed at all.

If you can already bend 1/2", the 5/8" won't pose any new challenges . . . . buy what you need

If you are new to bending, then just learn on what you'll be using, but be sure to buy at least two to three times as much as you anticipate needing, depending on the complexity of the bends you require.

For a change, the red silicone insert that came with the 5/8" mandrel kit, actually fits just right, (unlike the fairly useless blue one in the 1/2 kit) albeit still a bit on the short side.


As far as how well the compression grip holds . . . . . my fears are calmed . .

I have a dual D5 strong pump setup on 24V on the loop with the 5/8" monsoons, and nary a trace of a leak.

I was skeptical when I opened the box for the first time, as they seemed rather light and cheezey . . . . especially compared to Primochil Revolvers, but I'm OK with them now and if I need to use 5/8 tubing again, I'll use the fittings again.
Take away points:

Don't forget or loose the clear plastic washers

Be sure to peel the film off the clear plastic washers


Make sure you have the base in securely

Be sure your bends line up everything without any angular mis-alignment

LUBRICATE the outer threads (for the cap) on the base unit so they don't gall, freeze or jam . . . . You'll also ensure better compression of the o ring

Don't lubricate the threads inside the cap itself, as it'll end up getting on the tube or o ring


Darlene

Thanks for this. I have a few sets of these waiting around and would have never realized otherwise until it became a problem. thumb.gif
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I'm sure it's been discussed, but what other options are there for something to fill the tube while you bend it? I can't seem to find anything like a silicon insert. If I have to order the one from primochill I will.
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I'm sure it's been discussed, but what other options are there for something to fill the tube while you bend it? I can't seem to find anything like a silicon insert. If I have to order the one from primochill I will.

The Monsoon mandrel kits contain a silicone insert. US sizes: one kit has insert for 3/8" ID tubing and one for 1/2" ID tubing.

The EK Tube DIY kit has both EU sizes. For 10mm ID tubing and 12mm ID tubing.

If you search the thread, I believe IT Diva also linked a good silicone tube from McMaster-Carr or similar
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I know it has been asked before but i couldn't find the answer i know the monsoon mandrells cant give you a tight 90 is there some other tool to make them ??? I have seen at the primochill but based on the reviews people aren't really happy with them

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The Monsoon mandrel kits contain a silicone insert. US sizes: one kit has insert for 3/8" ID tubing and one for 1/2" ID tubing.

The EK Tube DIY kit has both EU sizes. For 10mm ID tubing and 12mm ID tubing.

If you search the thread, I believe IT Diva also linked a good silicone tube from McMaster-Carr or similar
The ID of 1/2" tubing is the same as that off 12mm tubing. Both have an ID of 10mm. These silicone inserts will work with either size.
    
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I know it has been asked before but i couldn't find the answer i know the monsoon mandrells cant give you a tight 90 is there some other tool to make them ??? I have seen at the primochill but based on the reviews people aren't really happy with them

You can use the Monsoon ones to make the initial bend, then find a small smooth round object to make the curve a little tighter. A hole saw bit is ideal for this because you can attach it to the work surface just like you would the mandrels. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Here's K.3nny in action with a hairdryer and hole saw bit

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The ID of 1/2" tubing is the same as that off 12mm tubing. Both have an ID of 10mm. These silicone inserts will work with either size.

I only have the Monsoon silicone cord, it's about 9.2mm. I don't have the EK cord, so just presumed it would be a little smaller.
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One more thing i am planing ordering 4 meters for my build will this be enough ??????

I used about 1 meter for my build. This included some practice pieces.
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OK which one of you Londoners wants to mail me some tube for my next build ?

http://www.plastock.co.uk/display-plastics/acrylic-tube/acrylic-round-tube/
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OK which one of you Londoners wants to mail me some tube for my next build ?

http://www.plastock.co.uk/display-plastics/acrylic-tube/acrylic-round-tube/

Interesting. Too bad it looks like all the colored options have the smallest size 19mm OD.
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Since that's the bending 101, here is how I did it for the very first time 😂
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OK, almost done with plumbing. And since there are discussions about how to measure for the bends and about the pros n cons of the monsoon sets, I'll show a bit more detailed how I've done it.
The different angles and rulers of the set were really helpful and I kind of built the path of the neutral thread of the pipe.

So I get an idea of the pipe

Quick sketch of the pipe and the dimensions an than a scale version on my work surface

Getting the mandrels in position and fix them to the surface


Let's bend!!


And after cutting both ends to the right length


It's done and it fits!
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