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Poll Results: 2GB VRAM-Not enough anymore-agree or disagree

 
  • 40% (70)
    Yes--Agree
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  • 27% (47)
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post #321 of 374
IMHO 2GB is enough currently for a single card however if you are looking to futureproof your single card, your purchase should be made on the basis that we as PC enthusiasts know future games will be written for consoles carrying in excess of 4GB of VRAM so your purchase should have as much VRAM as possible! Simple really! biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by Lifeshield View Post

You missed the point. I don't really care if games do or do not struggle without mods. That wasn't what I was getting at, at all. The point was that there are instances where someone can use more than 2gb of VRAM in a game. Whether that's vanilla or modified really doesn't matter to me.  

Do you know why I play on a PC? It's because I can do the one thing on PC I cannot do on a Console. Modify my games to look infinitely better than their console counterparts, only restricted by the hardware in my PC. To eliminate modified games from the equation is to go against one of the strongest point of playing on a PC in the first place. I modify my games where I can, which means I need it. Therefore 2gb is not enough for me, and probably a lot of other people. Instead of sitting here screaming at the top of your lungs that everyone should play their games the way you want them to, to prove your point, why not take a step back and look at the bigger picture of why some of us game on a PC in the first place.

And on the subject of unmodified games, if a game will use more than 2gb of VRAM if you have it available, why not have an adequate card use it? If you have the option of going for two identical cards at the same pricepoint, one a 2gb, one a 3gb, when you know your games will use more than 2gb if available, why go for the 2gb?


1 game is very narrow, using a modified game is even narrower.

I do see your point though, i was not disputing why we all game on PC, and the fact that modding is a good thing.

Just using it as an example is fine, but some here swear by it, like it is the only game all of us play...

I will come forward with the games that only need 2GB or more at 1080p


Skyrim with 500 mods.
Max payne 3 when enabling 8xMSAA (i think) i remember playing my copy of it maxed out with 4xMSAA without any issues.
Crysis 3

You only need a maximum of 1.5GB-2GB for everything else.

And 2 of the games above are not that new.

If you are serious on modifying games with silly amounts of bloom and large texture mods, then 2GB or more may be the route for you, otherwise... 1.5-2GB is MORE than enough at 1080p.

No GPU can max crysis 3 that uses 2GB anyway, all chips run out of performance before the Vram limit will even come close.





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post #323 of 374
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I will come forward with the games that only need 2GB or more at 1080p


Skyrim with 500 mods.
Max payne 3 when enabling 8xMSAA (i think) i remember playing my copy of it maxed out with 4xMSAA without any issues.
Crysis 3
Only with high amount of AA.
Edited by zalbard - 5/17/13 at 8:34am
post #324 of 374
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Only with high amount of AA.

Yes, and this will require more than 1 GPU.....

My 480 could only utilize around 1200mb whilst only using FXAA with mixed Very high/ medium settings... at this point i was at 30-70FPS (just about playable)

Video of it..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqKkbF0yhVg
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post #325 of 374
Lets face it, once 3+gb's is the norm, which it will soon, developers will make games that use it. I got 2 4gb 670 specifically to mod Skyrim at 1440p, if i wasnt interested in doing that, i would've kept my 2gb's as they were doing just fine. 2gb will be fine for some time yet for 1080p, but inevitably will be less so as higher res screens become cheaper, and games become more memory hungry.
post #326 of 374
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Just using it as an example is fine, but some here swear by it, like it is the only game all of us play...

 

For some of us it is the only game we play (or one that at least gets a hell of a lot of our time). I've actually been on that game non stop since launch, modding and tweaking ENB profiles (so much so I've had to uninstall, request a Nexus account ban, and force myself to take a break). The community for Skyrim is massive. It's probably the biggest modding community at present. Rivalling Unreal Tournaments modding scene back in its day, and making Oblivion and Fallout look boring in comparison.

 

The popularity of Skyrim is unreal and with that in mind it is little wonder why so many people will argue it's validity. I think you underestimate the games popularity and that is where you fail to realise why it is so important to take into consideration. It's even more important to take into consideration because guess what's coming next? Fallout 4! You think a 2gb card will cut it for that? Nope, not a chance.

 

Now I'll side with you, and say yeah, modding isn't for everyone. But it is a big part of PC culture and one that should definitely not be overlooked. It's not like Skyrim is the only game moddable either. Fallout 3, Oblivion, Crysis 1-3, Dark Souls, GTA IV, etc among many other games can get demanding once you start throwing mods on top of a maxed out base (though in some cases it's more poor developer optimization to blame).

 

Now... is more than 2gb a necessity for the average gamer today? I will say no. It is not a necessity. Is it required to get the most out of specific games? I would say definitely. Will you see games push VRAM more and more in the future? Is this really question up for debate? The more GPU's we see with high amounts of VRAM pushed out the more games will take advantage of that. It will eventually get to a point where 1gb will get phased out (though I don't forsee that for a good few years at least). Change is inevitable so I'm happy to have a headstart.

 

An old saying comes to mind here.

 

Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.

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post #327 of 374
Disagree because 2GB is plenty for 99.9% of the games out there.

Agree because I still have maxed out VRAM problems in a heavily modded Skyrim every now and then. But that's the exception, not the rule.
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I agree and disagree. In most instances it will be enough some instances it will not...

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For 1080p, 2gb of ram is fine. My 1gb sli 460s ran pretty much anything except modded skyrim, which my 2gb 670runs perfectly fine.
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Modded skyrim I hit 3 gb+ but other than that its fine.
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