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Sounds like you only have 2 PCs. I can see how that would make it difficult to figure out what goes where. I'll give you my strategy with my WHS2011 box. It was fairly simple and met my needs at the time. I'll start with what went where and then disk arrangement.

I stored nearly everything on my server. The only thing that wasn't stored on it were installed programs (heck even a few programs were installed there if they didn't have registry dependences). Why? That way no matter what PC I am on I can just open up documents, pics, videos whatever and not have to carry a portable harddrive around my apartment. Of course now I had a full GigE network so I wasn't slowed down by anything.

This allowed me to basically remove most of the hard drives in my PCs. Most of them have only a SSD drives in them now with a Raptor in my workstations. No more clutter to sort through finding things.

Now for the fun part. Backup and redundancy. They aren't quite the same thing IMO. RAID is useful and I employ it sparingly when I think redundancy is needed. I do utilize hardware RAID though and I would urge you to do the same. (Though not with your green drives as Tycoonbob explained.)

Starting with PC backups. WHS2011 will make incremental backup images of your PC everyday if you want it to. You can choose what to backup. If there is something you don't think you need to backup then simply tell it to ignore that folder. Now for me those backups are stored on a mirrored drive array within the WHS. I have redundant copies that way.

Important docs, pics, and such are also stored on a mirrored drive array. Only really important things for me though. Most of my media is only stored on a single drive with no redundancy within that machine.

Those redundant copies are nice if a drive fails but it does not protect you from total system failure. RAID is not really an entire backup solution but can be part of it. WHS2011 will annoy you with plugging in another drive to back the server up. Before it got too big I just used a 3 Tb external drive to back up to. Again here you can chose what you back up. I would back the entire system up excluding TV recordings. When it got to big I started to use a NAS. It doesn't end there though. I would also do another backup of things I cannot lose to another harddrive that I attach every couple of months and then store in a closet. Those things would also be copied to a cloud service everyday as well.

The minimum of copies of things you cannot lose is 3. In 3 separate physical locations and more if you can. It may sound overboard to some but it is nothing compared to what I do for data for my research work that involves Federal Gov oversite and funding.
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Useful info but near the end, its a bit too extreme for my case. Ive been good with just a one drive backup and now , ill probaby get some dvd-rw for the 30gb of important backup.
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I have been thinking of doing something similar with the Rasberry Pi I have now. Havent really started working on that project yet (hopefully next weekend)
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Useful info but near the end, its a bit too extreme for my case. Ive been good with just a one drive backup and now , ill probaby get some dvd-rw for the 30gb of important backup.

I'll agree somewhat extreme but I have lost drives and data before and won't let that happen again. If I were in your shoes with what you have I would just put all three 2 TB drives in the server with the 250 GB for the OS and not worry about RAID at the moment. I would move all your media and docs to the server. Back up really important things to optical media (remember that optical media does have a shelf life though) and to a cloud solution. When you can swing it pick up a external drive and start backing the entire thing up.

Another idea if you don't have a lot to back up is to just put 2 of the TB drives in the server and use the other in a external chassis or in a hot swap.
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http://www.carbonite.com/online-backup/pricing-plans/home 60 bucks a year. I wouldnt bother with the raid. Get all the good 2TB drives you want and fill them up and back them up to the cloud. The initial backup will take ALOT of time though since you could be having 2-4TBs going over your WAN connection but after that nightly backups should cover it.
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Thanks for the help. The more that I think about it, the more it make sense to me. Before, I though it was odd that people would store their music, folders and all their media on a server and than do nightly backup of their main computers. Because I think to myself, "where do they backup their server?" and that never came up most of the time. It's always backup their other computers and never a server itself. And most of the time the server is on a raid 5 or something similar. I guess I overreach my research that I forget that some people leave out their backup of the server itself. And that their backup of the computer probably have to do with OS, program files or stuff that doesn't run well on a network drive.

Chances are that I'll probably grab a external HDD and store the backup of the important file on there. Now, I just gotta remember to back it up every few weeks. And also, backup the important files store on my server onto my 500GB HDD inside my main computer as well. The 500GB is mainly for games. Huh, where I should keep dropbox? Hmm. Something to think about. Also, what about the save games file that are normally store in appdata or in the actual games folder themselves? Ah, something else to think about.

Thanks for the help everyone.
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Thanks for the help. The more that I think about it, the more it make sense to me. Before, I though it was odd that people would store their music, folders and all their media on a server and than do nightly backup of their main computers. Because I think to myself, "where do they backup their server?" and that never came up most of the time. It's always backup their other computers and never a server itself. And most of the time the server is on a raid 5 or something similar. I guess I overreach my research that I forget that some people leave out their backup of the server itself. And that their backup of the computer probably have to do with OS, program files or stuff that doesn't run well on a network drive.

Chances are that I'll probably grab a external HDD and store the backup of the important file on there. Now, I just gotta remember to back it up every few weeks. And also, backup the important files store on my server onto my 500GB HDD inside my main computer as well. The 500GB is mainly for games. Huh, where I should keep dropbox? Hmm. Something to think about. Also, what about the save games file that are normally store in appdata or in the actual games folder themselves? Ah, something else to think about.

Thanks for the help everyone.

For how many PCs, I would suggest looking into getting some software to do scheduled backups automatically. Like Acronis or something similar.

For our work servers, we have about 10 of them. We back all of those up to an NAS (Network attached storage) and then they just backup automatically. Incremental backups during the week and a full backup every Saturday
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Maybe I can give you some ideas. I have my main workstations upstairs, and downstairs I have my servers. What I do with them:

-FTP (LAN party files, installation files, etc.)
-Media streaming (Music, videos, and pictures)
-Game servers
-Backups

I use Filezilla for FTP, Plex Media Server for streaming media, and obviously the games and back ups are their own things. I think the most applicable thing you could do is stream media, as it's very easy and convenient. I'm a bit of a classic film enthusiast and connoisseur, and keeping dozens of movies on my RAID 0 array is not only dangerous (A lot of these movies are hard to find) but it wastes space on my workstation. Another benefit of using your server to serve media on the network is I can watch from any device. I want to watch "The way we were" on my S3? Just open up the app. I want to listen to some trance from the office? Just open up a web browser and go to the proper ip.address:port and bang. The possibilities are endless.

Hope this helps!
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Huh, where I should keep dropbox? Hmm. Something to think about. Also, what about the save games file that are normally store in appdata or in the actual games folder themselves? Ah, something else to think about.

For what it's worth you can make a "folder junction" as windows vista/7 calls it so the games will all be saving to their default place but will actually be conveniently stored on your dropbox. That's what I've been doing for a while now. And I would just install dropbox/googledrive/skydrive on your main PC and store every day stuff there. It's where I store resumes and account info for various things.
 
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