Originally Posted by atomicmew
Lowest price for Dell UltraSharp U2713HM 27" at the moment is 630 + shipping (~660). Lowest price for PLS is $300 + 40 warranty = 680 for two. So yes, you can get two korean PLS monitors for the same price as a dell. Sure you can wait for deals as low as ~$500-550, but you can also find catleaps selling on Craigslist for $150-200. So if you really want to make that argument, you still lose by an even wider margin.
1) Warranty support: warranty support from Square Trades is 100% top notch and just flat out better than Dell
. They pay for everything
2) QNIX/X-star monitor quality is, and listen closely, superior to the U2713HM
. Again just because Dell is a American name brand does NOT mean it produces better quality products. QNIX is just a superior product in practically every way. Massively lower input lag, 120 Hz vs 60 Hz and PLS vs IPS. There is no contest.
Lastly, Calm down man you're gonna have a heart attack. These good deals make you mad? You got an inferior product and feel the need to rage on the forums to justify your purchase. Alternatively, learn from your mistakes so you can be rational and better off the next time you make a purchase. Your choice.
To begin with, I am not "mad" as you claim.
Second, I got my U2713HM when it was well under $600. I don't care if you can't currently get one for that; they have sales all the time at this price (I believe they had one just one or two days ago). The prices I quoted for the korean panels were for PIXEL PERFECT panels. For a fair comparison to the Dell you need to be looking at these, since Dell will let you return their high end panels for virtually any reason if you are not satisfied with it.
I have no idea why you said that you can get Catleaps for under $200 on craigslist; I searched the craigslist in my area (A major metropolitan area) and could find ZERO 2560 x 1440 monitors. Since craigslist is a person to person sale, it requires that someone has the product you want within driving distance. Given that I cannot find ANY of these monitors in my area, it clearly is not a viable choice for everyone. Furthermore, I seriously doubt that anyone is selling a Catleap for $150 unless it has serious issues with it. In any case, you aren't getting a warranty and you are screwed if anything happens.
You seem to be confusing QUALITY with FEATURES. They are totally different things. Input lag and refresh rate are not a difference in QUALITY, they are a difference in FEATURE SET. If I buy a monitor knowing that it has a 60Hz refresh rate and a small amount of input lag , I am not going to say "this is low quality" when it performs exactly as I expect in this regard.
Here are some examples of quality issues: dead pixels, backlight bleed, fit and finish and overall build quality (including the stand), color/backlight regularity, etc.
Sure, you can OC some of the korean panels, but these OCs are by no means guaranteed.
Looking on Ebay right now, the cheapest qnix monitor with a perfect pixel guarantee is $404, with $64 for a 3 year warranty, for a total of $468. That is approximately $100 less than what I paid for my U2713HM. However, the Qnix monitor ships from Korea, whereas my Dell monitor (which I bought from newegg) came 2 days after I bought it.
The U2713HM does have input lag, but it is not anything that I can notice in FPS games, so it doesn't bother me. Therefore it is a non issue. Furthermore, the stand on the U2713HM is very nice, and certainly better than ANYTHING you will find on a korean panel. It has height, tilt, pivot, and rotation adjustments and is very sturdy. Getting a stand that can do all of these things would cost at least $50. Sure, you can get monoprice stands that have these adjustments for $30, but you have to physically loosen screws in order to make any adjustments, which takes MUCH longer.
Your point on warranty support is COMPLETELY WRONG. You clearly have not had any experiences with Dell's monitor support. I have no idea what their general computer support is like, but their support for their high end monitors is FANTASTIC and literally could not be better in any way. I had bad backlight bleed on the first panel I got. I contacted customer support, and they shipped me out a second panel without even asking for proof of the bleed or any evidence of any kind. That's right, they shipped the replacement BEFORE I sent the old monitor back. They then sent me a fedex label for the return shipping (so I had to pay nothing). I then scheduled a pickup with fedex (again at no cost) and sent the old monitor back to them. In total, this return cost me ZERO dollars, minimal time, and could not have gone any better. The people on the site you linked clearly had issues, but most of their issues were with computers, not monitors.
In other words, the Dell ultrasharp monitor warranty support is just as good as any other support out there, if not better. There is literally nothing they could have improved on with my warranty.
Finally, how did I get an "inferior product?" Last time I checked I have a monitor that is factory calibrated, has no dead pixels, a superior stand, more inputs, a better OSD, excellent colors, and a USB 3.0 Hub. You seem to be attempting to justify your purchase by completely making up numbers and facts.
Spartan F8, the cheapest 2560 x 1440 panel I can find on Ebay right now is $300, with a $50 warranty. Add on a quality VESA stand with all the adjustments that the Dell has and you are going to be paying a total of at least $400.Edited by Mjolnir125 - 5/7/13 at 6:42pm