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I do have to say Dave, you are only taking average frames, not minimum and maximum over time. Average makes no difference simply due to the fact that you could get like 200FPS for like 2 seconds, then be at 50 the rest of the time, and the average would hike up. Averages are just about the worst thing to look at, same as only looking at maximum frames. Im not disagreeing with you, but I am saying your proving your point in the wrong way.

Min/Max frames do not reflect frame latency which was their point.

It is true that AMD are having that issue and it's because they seemingly didn't acknowledge it until the beginning of the year, and they have made very significant progress since then.
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So.. Would you guys buy the 650D over the H630 or over the Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 ?
Also, would you wait for a 770 or go for a 670 (remember that I'm planning to SLI later on).
My budget for the GPU would be around 400$
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I would go for the Arc Midi R2 personally, it's a very versatile case.

Up to you. The 650D has aluminium front panel. Stock fans are better on the Fractal case and you can mount radiators on front easily from what I've seen.
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Yeah, that's the thing, I like the look of the 650D over the R2, but the price tag is quite different, and the possibilities of the R2 seems almost infinite. And that's quite cool considering its price. The stock fans would be better ? I would buy some Noctua or some Corsair Performance in both cases, a set of 2, plus the h80i / h100i, there is a 200mm in the 650D, what about the R2 ? What other fans could I put other than the CPU cooler & 2 set of 120mm fans ?
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Yea not fan of the big 200mm fan, they're not as efficient as 120mm/140mm's and there are no really good fans in that category.

For case fans, look at Gelid Silent 12 / Silent 14. Another great fan and very cost-efficient is the Thermalright TY-147 but it's 140x150mm so you can' t fit it everywhere, this one is versatile and can be used as heatsink fan too (maybe Silent 14 too?).
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Thanks for the fans indications, you're quite a man my dear !

Yeah, I'm thinking about removing the 200mm and putting 2x120 instead, more airflow and moves more air, a bit louder maybe but at a decent speed the difference won't even be noticeable I bet !
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Thanks for the fans indications, you're quite a man my dear !

Yeah, I'm thinking about removing the 200mm and putting 2x120 instead, more airflow and moves more air, a bit louder maybe but at a decent speed the difference won't even be noticeable I bet !

Because of the weak static pressure rating of 200mm fans that's why 2x120 will push more air biggrin.gif when used as a filtered intake tongue.gif
Or generally any situation ... still pushes more air
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A filtered intake ?
You're too deep into the technical terms there, fan 101 Dave ? Gimme a little class smile.gif

Edit :

Nevermind, it was just a matter of understanding english well :'D
Edited by stnz - 5/19/13 at 8:50am
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Because of the weak static pressure rating of 200mm fans that's why 2x120 will push more air biggrin.gif when used as a filtered intake tongue.gif
Or generally any situation ... still pushes more air
Depends how fine the filter is.My NZXT 190mm fan seems to push air through the filters pretty well.
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I do enjoy these NZXT fans but the fact that you have to either mod your case or zip tie them if you're not using a NZXT case is quite annoying,
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Samsung - 840 (128GB) Asus - 24B1ST Corsair - H100i Microsoft - Windows 7 
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Razer - DeathAdder 3.5G (Black Edition) Steelseries - Qck Heavy Sennheiser - PC360 G4ME 
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i7 3820QM Apple Motherboard (2 Thunderbolts / USB 3.0) Nvidia Gefore GTX 650M Apple 8 GB DDR3L SDRAM 
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Apple - Numeric Keyboard Gateway - Powersupply Gateway - FX6801 Razer - Death Adder (Black) / Steelseries - Sen... 
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