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Emulate said server, though that's not for this thread. And won't happen for a while.

Won't happen at all because you're actually porting through the server to use the program, itself.

This would be like playing WoW only, WoW isn't installed on your computer, it's on THEIR server...So, once you're locked out of CS7 or, you don't log into the server, there is no more CS7...You're not downloading the program from the server, you're downloading the assets.

Won't happen for a while, is absolutely right -- More then likely won't happen until someone either hacks Adobe or actually, physically, steals a rack.
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Even at $50 a month it'll take about 4 years of subscription to match the MSRP cost of a new CS. And new versions of CS usually come out every 2 to 3 years, so it's probably better for professionals and companies that regularly upgrade software. For hobbyists and what not, CS6 is still offered as a standalone product.
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Even at $50 a month it'll take about 4 years of subscription to match the MSRP cost of a new CS. And new versions of CS usually come out every 2 to 3 years, so it's probably better for professionals and companies that regularly upgrade software. For hobbyists and what not, CS6 is still offered as a standalone product.

Yes yes, and what happens in 5 or 6 years when CS6 is obsolete? Contrary to popular belief, students don't actually get Adobe software for free through their schools.

It's already bad enough that art students are doing all their work/training in class hours, on Pentium 4 workstations, with last year's CS. It'll get even worse when those students are forced into a version so old that it no longer even resembles what they will be expected to use when they graduate.


It's this kind of nonsense that makes adobe software so highly pirated in the first place. And no, GIMP and Paint.net are not valid arguements when you are expected to do work on your projects in class on CS(insert second highest number here).
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Yes yes, and what happens in 5 or 6 years when CS6 is obsolete? Contrary to popular belief, students don't actually get Adobe software for free through their schools.

It's already bad enough that art students are doing all their work/training in class hours, on Pentium 4 workstations, with last year's CS. It'll get even worse when those students are forced into a version so old that it no longer even resembles what they will be expected to use when they graduate.

It's this kind of nonsense that makes adobe software so highly pirated in the first place. And no, GIMP and Paint.net are not valid arguements when you are expected to do work on your projects in class on CS(insert second highest number here).

Not unless they go to a trade school and drop 30k/year...Otherwise they get a discount...In fact, my Rep tells me about 90% of all of their legitimate users, pay...The rest are students in trade schools/have Adobe specific programs and buy the computers through the school or they're family...

...I know of a very successful magazine that's used Adobe 6.0 (1997) for the past 16 years...They managed...That aside, schools make purchases through Adobe and upgrade when THEY feel the need to...So, I'd suggest you start freaking out at the school other than adobe.

...Adobe was pirated LONG BEFORE it became expensive...In fact, I'd argue (As would my Rep) that in response TO the pirating, the price had to be jacked up to meet development costs...Which, is understandable...We used to have 1 release/year now, it's 1 release every 2-3 years, if we're lucky and it's released as a suite as opposed to the individual product.

CS2 is currently F R E E. CS2 accomplishes the same exact things that CS6 does minus some functionality in 3/4 tools and a couple RAW formatting options...

By the time you're done paying for 2-3 years of this program, you actually get an innovative cloud system, the program itself and an experience that you don't currently have.

I understand that some of you feels Adobe is gouging but, here's a simple request: Find me equal software for less -- and no GIMP doesn't cover the bases Adobe does nor does Quark...

You can't because Adobe is what it is so, we'll either pay it or, not use Adobe...

I own the entire CS6 suite...I would've paid significantly less if I had gone the subscription route and I actually beta'd the entire process from Alpha/Beta --> now...It's actually not the "evil" that you all think it will be -- I suggest some of you try it first before grabbing the torches + pitchforks.
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Rent your software taken to it's logical conclusion..PATHETIC
 
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I only buy once every 3/4 years - I don't need the latest , just so long as it does the job. I mostly only upgrade when forced to because Adobe requires that the older version is not compatible with the new Windows version .
This new cloud version is a total no go for me .
One occasional customer is better than one non-customer - at $1400 about every 3 to 4 years is better than $0 . Their choice , their loss .
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Adobe is committing suicide with this.

I talked to my cousin who works at a major design firm in Boston and he said that they are basically enraged at this decision. In fact, it sounds like a lot of developers and design firms are. It's taking control out of their hands, and increasing operating costs. It also sounds if Adobe is looking to rework how their volume licensing works.

Creative Cloud = Dependence out outside servers. That's bad for independent businesses.
 
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I do not see the doom and gloom. For many companies this is great. Fixed costs are almost always more attractive for accountants than variable costs, especially when the one time fee to upgrade all the Adobe workstations is $1500+ per. For small time guys its a bit more out of pocket in the long term, but if you are even mildly successful the price of an Adobe license/sub is at the bottom of your priorities. For students, I'm sure universities will continue to provide support. I believe Adobe even offers an educational sub for a low price. Students and teachers get cloud at $19.99 and I'm sure Universities will be able to leverage an even lower rate. $20 a month for critical software is nothing compared to the normal expenses of a college student (hell, I spent double that at the bars sometimes in college...).

Really, the only people that hugely lose out are the dudes that want to mess around with CS using the pirated versions. I use CS everyday and will eventually move to the creative cloud when enough new features come out to make CS6 obsolete.

FWIW, it sucks that we are moving to a perpetual license, but there are some upsides such as never worrying about paying the large upgrade costs, slipstreamed updates, anywhere access, and such. However, we've only purchased licenses for software for over a decade, this was the next logical step for companies.
 
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I do not see the doom and gloom. For many companies this is great. Fixed costs are almost always more attractive for accountants than variable costs, especially when the one time fee to upgrade all the Adobe workstations is $1500+ per. For small time guys its a bit more out of pocket in the long term, but if you are even mildly successful the price of an Adobe license/sub is at the bottom of your priorities. For students, I'm sure universities will continue to provide support. I believe Adobe even offers an educational sub for a low price. Students and teachers get cloud at $19.99 and I'm sure Universities will be able to leverage an even lower rate. $20 a month for critical software is nothing compared to the normal expenses of a college student (hell, I spent double that at the bars sometimes in college...).

Really, the only people that hugely lose out are the dudes that want to mess around with CS using the pirated versions. I use CS everyday and will eventually move to the creative cloud when enough new features come out to make CS6 obsolete.

FWIW, it sucks that we are moving to a perpetual license, but there are some upsides such as never worrying about paying the large upgrade costs, slipstreamed updates, anywhere access, and such. However, we've only purchased licenses for software for over a decade, this was the next logical step for companies.

Haha, its an upside paying more short term costs, because you don't have to pay 1 big long term cost? Man, that is some horrible logic.
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Haha, its an upside paying more short term costs, because you don't have to pay 1 big long term cost? Man, that is some horrible logic.

You don't actually pay more...

I don't quite understand where most of you are getting this assumption that a development firm would pay more via the sub service -- that's false.

We basically have a "distributor" that we broker licenses from and the price fluctuates.

This program...Actually SAVES us a lot of money.

That's not to say some distributors weren't being shady and selling at cost or giving copies away as a bonus...But, for those of us that pay almost retail through the distributor (Which is practically every major design firm out there) the entire suite is VERY EXPENSIVE.

I'd have to pay $500/month over 2 years to equate what I pay out of pocket, every 2 years for the new suite...This service, saves me a significant amount of money and gives me an entire cloud to work with ontop of it.

I realize this "sucks" for the rest of you but, Adobe is and always has been, a business product so, I'm not about to shed a tear...
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