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Hopefully Sony Vegas get more support in the video industry after this.... With Final Cut being iMovied and this subscription nonsense on Adobe stuff, it's really Avid or Vegas for NLE editing.
     
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Even at $50 a month it'll take about 4 years of subscription to match the MSRP cost of a new CS. And new versions of CS usually come out every 2 to 3 years, so it's probably better for professionals and companies that regularly upgrade software. For hobbyists and what not, CS6 is still offered as a standalone product.

4 yrs of subscription but only an hr to download it . Did someone say fossi your teethe ? biggrin.gif
post #113 of 189
CS5 still does everything I need it too, so this is not going to bother me. I also only paid $200 for it anyway. I would never pay full retail for any newer version and for sure not going to give them $50/mo. If enough people decline to junmp to the new versions that are subscription only they will have to revert and offer a standalone again or suffer major failure. Then again there are enough sheep out there that will take it on the chin and fork out the monthly to them I guess. Suckers are born every minute.
post #114 of 189
Server interactions can be emulated. A perfect example is DICE's Battlefield Bad Company 2 and Battlefield 3.

For the longest time, no one could play Multiplayer unless they had a legitimate account. That changed when server emulators came out and people were able to re-write all interactions the client did with the server, thus eliminating the need for the legit EA backend.

Not saying its easy, nor am I saying its going to happen immediately after this thing becomes mainstream. But its very close-minded to say that it's impossible.
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Haha, its an upside paying more short term costs, because you don't have to pay 1 big long term cost? Man, that is some horrible logic.

Seriously, where have you been since Keynesian economics took root? tongue.gif

Companies will always choose low, steady, and predictable costs vs large, random costs. But as Masked said anyway, for the people that need to keep up to the standard it's actually less expensive. Photoshop cs6 extended alone cost over $900. It would take well over 3 years of photoshop creative cloud at full price (at a little more than the price of a wow sub... rolleyes.gif ) to equal that. Any pro designer would be well out of the standard by then. Most upgrade every time at a major expense.

Pretty much the people that actually pay for a full license of photoshop are generally okay with creative cloud.
 
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Server interactions can be emulated. A perfect example is DICE's Battlefield Bad Company 2 and Battlefield 3.

For the longest time, no one could play Multiplayer unless they had a legitimate account. That changed when server emulators came out and people were able to re-write all interactions the client did with the server, thus eliminating the need for the legit EA backend.

Not saying its easy, nor am I saying its going to happen immediately after this thing becomes mainstream. But its very close-minded to say that it's impossible.

You'll be several months if not years behind in features as adobe continues to update the service and programs. I guess we will see how they handle server emulation in the coming years.
 
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post #117 of 189
I guess CS6 might be my last PS update...
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Seriously, where have you been since Keynesian economics took root? tongue.gif

Companies will always choose low, steady, and predictable costs vs large, random costs. But as Masked said anyway, for the people that need to keep up to the standard it's actually less expensive. Photoshop cs6 extended alone cost over $900. It would take well over 3 years of photoshop creative cloud at full price (at a little more than the price of a wow sub... rolleyes.gif ) to equal that. Any pro designer would be well out of the standard by then. Most upgrade every time at a major expense.

Pretty much the people that actually pay for a full license of photoshop are generally okay with creative cloud.

I wouldn't exactly say generally okay...But, "we" as a community can't complain about it, either.

This puts an end to the pricing schematic and basically means that Adobe controls their licensing, alone.

What most people fail to understand is that for that $50 a month, you're actually getting 4/5 programs that would otherwise cost you $300.00-1k/per.

For example, right now, for a TEAM to use their product (This is not per individual, this is like 4/5 people) it's $70/month. At 2 years, I save over 7k.

As an individual (I have this at home) I spend 29.99/month for EVERYTHING they offer. I'm spending $30/month for 7-8k worth of product + a cloud that collectively links every product.

So over 2 years, as an individual, I'd spend about $720...That's a savings of over $6k.

Even if I was paying $50/month, that's $600/year or $1200/2 years -- You've just paid retail for CS6 for use of the entire Adobe platform, for 2 years.

Students and teachers pay SIGNIFICANTLY less monthly.

The entire pricing discussion we're having exists because distributors basically lied to Adobe and charged everyone differently...Anyone in this industry or that installs it at a business level, knows that's true...They felt the need to control their software and it is what it is.

You save money, a LOT of money, you can learn the ENTIRE cloud...I just don't understand what the argument is beyond "Adobe is greedy, BAD BAD ADOBE" when, they've essentially been getting robbed for the past decade by greedy distributors, is...? Anyone?
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Eh. Indeed it seems I was in error, I retract my pricing comment.
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About time. Adobe products always cost an arm and a leg. Hopefully this will deter piracy as well.
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