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I'm trying to piece together some builds that I think customers would want to buy and this one I have set with SOHO (Small Office/Home Office) in mind using an Intel chip. I wanted something that is going to last a few years as well as around the $700 mark. So please tell me what you think. What would you change?

• CPU: Intel Core i5 3470 $193
• Motherboard: ASUS P8B75-M LX Motherboard $61
• Memory: Kingston HyperX Blue 4GB Kit(2Gx2) DDR3 1600 $42
• Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 2TB ST2000DM001 $91
• Optical Drive: Pioneer SATA DVR-220 DVD RW $21
• Case: Corsair Carbide 200R Black Mid Tower $72
• Power Supply: Corsair CMPSU-600CXV3 600Watt 80Plus Bronze $85
• OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit with SP1 (*Windows 8 Pro also available if preferred at an additional $50) $93 or $145

Total: $658 or $710
post #2 of 11
looks pretty decent for a SOHO build. an SSD would be nice and maybe change the CPU to a 3rd gen I3 for example i3-3240 might allow for a small 60-64GB SSD.
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post #3 of 11
CPU seems rather expensive for the model, figured you could get better for cheaper.
Could likely save a little with a smaller HDD like a 1TB(or anything ~500GB or higher, depends on the deals you can get). Most offices have networks and I can't see the use of 2TB being a norm.
DVD burner is pretty cheap as is. But since its used to little these days, get the cheapest deal you can find and maybe shave a few bucks off.
Theres definitely cheaper cases, though I don't know what kind of style/look you want, or how the prices of things are in AUS.
PSU is overkill and expensive. You can easily find something solid in the $40-$50 range that would serve this well even with a budget GPU installed later if needed/wanted by the customer.

It's a solid build, but certain parts could be overkill and adding to the cost which won't help you any. I would say you could shave about $50 or so off and have the same quality/performance.

Got some sites you can link us to so we can see the prices you have to deal with?
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CPU and PSU both seem a little overkill. Maybe an i3 and something in the 400w range instead? Could save some money with a cheaper case as well.
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post #5 of 11
The core concept is solid, but the one thing I don't get is why a 600w PSU? Even if by some twist of fate someone put a GTX 680 into this SOHO build, you still wouldn't need more than 450w.

Here's what I threw together as another alternative. The key changes are the PSU (Seasonic > Corsair's CX line), motherboard (I prefer Gigabyte's lower-end models), HDD (1GB should be enough), and RAM (most of Kingston's RAM is 1.65v, and 1.5v really should be used on a B75 build).

CPU: Intel i5-3470 ($193)
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=187_346_1184

MOBO: Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H ($65)
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=138_1183&products_id=19859

RAM: G.Skill F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ [2x2GB DDR3-1600] ($42)
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=186_538_913&products_id=13601

HDD: Western Digital WD Blue 1TB WD10EZEX ($69)
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=210_344&products_id=21231

DVD: Samsung SH-224BB ($22)
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=658_667&products_id=21346

CASE: Corsair Carbide 200R ($79)
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=21851

PSU: Seasonic S12II 430w ($75)
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_535&products_id=15958

TOTAL: $545 before Windows
Edited by svenge - 5/7/13 at 1:51am
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post #6 of 11
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Originally Posted by Fuell View Post

CPU seems rather expensive for the model, figured you could get better for cheaper.

We are talking Australian prices here and we always pay more than we need to.
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Could likely save a little with a smaller HDD like a 1TB(or anything ~500GB or higher, depends on the deals you can get). Most offices have networks and I can't see the use of 2TB being a norm.

This is a SOHO build not a computer for a huge company office. I figured with the difference of $35 between a 1TB and a 2TB hard drive, why not give the client double the storage.
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DVD burner is pretty cheap as is. But since its used to little these days, get the cheapest deal you can find and maybe shave a few bucks off.
That's about the cheapest DVD Burner available.
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Theres definitely cheaper cases, though I don't know what kind of style/look you want, or how the prices of things are in AUS.

Sure there are cheaper cases, but most of the cheaper ones look ugly in my opinion and I wouldn't any of them in my office.
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PSU is overkill and expensive. You can easily find something solid in the $40-$50 range that would serve this well even with a budget GPU installed later if needed/wanted by the customer.

I always provide a bit more than is needed in a PSU just in case the client ever wants to upgrade in the future. No need only providing what will get the system running now and then have to purchase another one in 6 months time if they decide to upgrade substantially.
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It's a solid build, but certain parts could be overkill and adding to the cost which won't help you any. I would say you could shave about $50 or so off and have the same quality/performance.

Got some sites you can link us to so we can see the prices you have to deal with?

I choose to shop at PC Case Gear most of the time as they usually have the cheapest prices. MSY is also a great place to shop.
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CPU and PSU both seem a little overkill. Maybe an i3 and something in the 400w range instead? Could save some money with a cheaper case as well.

I might just change the CPU for an i3 3220 instead. As stated above, I always like to provide a little extra in a PSU.
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The core concept is solid, but the one thing I don't get is why a 600w PSU? Even if by some twist of fate someone put a GTX 680 into this SOHO build, you still wouldn't need more than 450w.

Here's what I threw together as another alternative. The key changes are the PSU (Seasonic > Corsair's CX line), motherboard (I prefer Gigabyte's lower-end models), HDD (1GB should be enough), and RAM (most of Kingston's RAM is 1.65v, and 1.5v really should be used on a B75 build).

CPU: Intel i5-3470 ($193)
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=187_346_1184

MOBO: Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H ($65)
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=138_1183&products_id=19859

RAM: G.Skill F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ [2x2GB DDR3-1600] ($42)
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=186_538_913&products_id=13601

HDD: Western Digital WD Blue 1TB WD10EZEX ($69)
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=210_344&products_id=21231

DVD: Samsung SH-224BB ($22)
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=658_667&products_id=21346

CASE: Corsair Carbide 200R ($79)
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=21851

PSU: Seasonic S12II 430w ($75)
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_535&products_id=15958

TOTAL: $545 before Windows

Thanks for the comprehensive reply. I've stated why I went with a bigger PSU than needed above as well with the hard drive. You are right about the RAM and your suggestion looks good to me. As for the motherboard, I have never had a problem with an ASUS board which is the reason I usually go with ASUS, but in this case that Gigabyyte board does have more bang for the buck compared to the ASUS one, so I will change it to that one.

So my revised setup would be:

• CPU: Intel Core i3 3220 $118.00
• Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H $65
• Memory: G.Skill F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ (2x2GB) DDR3 $45
• Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 2TB ST2000DM001 $91
• Optical Drive: Pioneer SATA DVR-220 DVD RW $21
• Case: Corsair Carbide 200R Black Mid Tower $72
• Power Supply: Corsair CMPSU-600CXV3 600Watt 80Plus Bronze $85
• OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit with SP1 (*Windows 8 Pro also available if preferred at an additional $55) $93 or $148

Total: $590 or $645
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So my revised setup would be:

• CPU: Intel Core i3 3220 $118.00
• Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H $65
• Memory: G.Skill F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ (2x2GB) DDR3 $45
• Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 2TB ST2000DM001 $91
• Optical Drive: Pioneer SATA DVR-220 DVD RW $21
• Case: Corsair Carbide 200R Black Mid Tower $72
• Power Supply: Corsair CMPSU-600CXV3 600Watt 80Plus Bronze $85
• OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit with SP1 (*Windows 8 Pro also available if preferred at an additional $55) $93 or $148

Total: $590 or $645

Given your rationale for the HDD and PSU choices, I would give that setup my "seal of approval". I don't actually have one, but if I did I'd post it...

/note to self: Create "seal of approval" in Paint.net sometime
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I don't think your business model is appropriate for what you are trying to accomplish with that product. A redundant array and service contracts are ESSENTIAL if you are trying to market a legit service. Not providing redundant storage is just asking for someone to take your head when their only copy of data dies. That or have a standard cloud backup option. Service is still one of the key selling points though. Your product is absolutely inferior to anyone who will warranty their hardware for a year.
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Given your rationale for the HDD and PSU choices, I would give that setup my "seal of approval". I don't actually have one, but if I did I'd post it...

/note to self: Create "seal of approval" in Paint.net sometime

Thanks. I appreciate it.
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I don't think your business model is appropriate for what you are trying to accomplish with that product. A redundant array and service contracts are ESSENTIAL if you are trying to market a legit service. Not providing redundant storage is just asking for someone to take your head when their only copy of data dies. That or have a standard cloud backup option. Service is still one of the key selling points though. Your product is absolutely inferior to anyone who will warranty their hardware for a year.

Are you trying to tell me that if you were in business selling PC's you would make sure that all of them had some sort of backup in place? If that is what you are saying, then i think you are wrong. Do you see the big name companies doing that? No! Because it is the customers responsibility to see to backing up their own system. Whether they wish to utilize a RAID setup, or backup via the Cloud, or even use DVD RW to back up their data on a scheduled basis.
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correct ^^ a lot SOHO's will probably use a pre-made NAS of some sort.
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Coolermaster HAF 912 advanced (Asia version) 
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Win 7 ultimate Samsung Syncmaster 932gwe+ OCZ ZT series 550W Coolermaster 410 
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1.67Ghz Atom stock 1GB DDR2 2 x 500GB Western Digital Cavier Blacks [RAID 1] 
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