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It could possibly be less than $600 but I'm guessing it won't be any more. Could be wrong though, Nvidia's greed is unparalleled...
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That is exactly why I think it will be 15-20% faster than the 680 and be $600. This also means that they can price the 770 around ~$450.

Titan at $1k and being 25% faster than the 780 I don't believe will hurt the Titan sales at all.

If Titan still has a healthy increase, then yeah $1k will still be fine.

But if 780 is 20% more than 680 for $100 extra bones, and Titan is 20% more than 780 for $400 extra bones, it really seems a little ridiculous. People are willing to not care about price/performance and blow $1,000 when the next best thing is so much slower, but I think if there's a very close alternative for much much less, it's going to move from "not caring what I have to pay to get the best" to just being foolish.

I'm thinking it'll probably be on the lower end of the spectrum, closer to 10% faster than 680.
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

It could possibly be less than $600 but I'm guessing it won't be any more. Could be wrong though, Nvidia's greed is unparalleled...

I don't know if you can really blame nVidia, though.

The GK104, aka 680, should never have been released as a high end part to begin with.

It's really the lack of competition that's enabling them to get away with this.

You can't blame a business for exploiting market opportunities... That's their entire point of existence. You have to blame the market they exist in.
post #784 of 933
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Originally Posted by lajgnd View Post

The 780 is certainly shaping up to be an interesting product.

How much faster can it really be than a 680 without completely alienating Titan customers?

Sure, as a Titan owner, I paid top dollar for maximum performance - Price/Performance ratio wasn't really considered, but still.

That being said it's not a tremendous leap over the 680, ranging from 30-45% over it.

So this makes a very odd pricing decision, as there's realistically only so much performance it can have over the 680 without performing the same as a Titan... A $500 gap is much larger than a 30-45% performance gap.
that actually makes sense.. thumb.gif
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I don't know if you can really blame nVidia, though.

The GK104, aka 680, should never have been released as a high end part to begin with.

It's really the lack of competition that's enabling them to get away with this.

You can't blame a business for exploiting market opportunities... That's their entire point of existence. You have to blame the market they exist in.

Only wrench is the 680 only held the lead for 4 months, then the 7970 GHz came out. So on the single GPU front, they were behind yet charging more and still are.

I really don't think amd plays much of a part in nvidias release/price schedule in all honesty. Its like apple, they are their own competition with the other players not really meaning much to them.
     
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I don't blame Nvidia at all for charging what they think people will pay for their products. It is what it is...
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Originally Posted by lajgnd View Post

I don't know if you can really blame nVidia, though.

The GK104, aka 680, should never have been released as a high end part to begin with.

It's really the lack of competition that's enabling them to get away with this.

You can't blame a business for exploiting market opportunities... That's their entire point of existence. You have to blame the market they exist in.
You mean the lack of AMD to remove the gpgpu parts from their gpus
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I don't blame Nvidia at all for charging what they think people will pay for their products. It is what it is...

I have to agree. Take advantage of the market you have while you can.
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Only wrench is the 680 only held the lead for 4 months, then the 7970 GHz came out. So on the single GPU front, they were behind yet charging more and still are.

I really don't think amd plays much of a part in nvidias release/price schedule in all honesty. Its like apple, they are their own competition with the other players not really meaning much to them.

The 7970 GHz's performance lead wasn't enough to make a tangible difference, IMO.

nVidia knows that people will pay a slightly higher premium for their similar performing product, even if its a little less than AMD's, simply because they know the value users place on their driver quality and consistent driver release schedules.

That being said, I can tell you for a fact that if AMD released a single GPU product at the end of this month that performed at Titan levels and priced it at the current price of the 7970 GHz, nVidia would certainly have to respond to that by altering their pricing structure. nVidia's driver quality adds value, but not $500 worth of value.
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A 690 can be justified at $1000 dollars because it is 98% the performance of 2 680's in SLI.

Agreed, plus the 690 can be had way cheaper now. It is a hell of card, all that performance and runs fairly cool and quiet and uses little power for what it can do.

Likewise the new AMD HD 7990 is a monster, just a bit late in the game.

$1000 on a single GPU (GTX Titan) just seems extortionate, especially when one isn't even enough to get playable fps in 1440P on newer games..
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