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I prefer an APU over a fx-4xxx

(totally agree with your statement biggrin.gif )

Exactly. Why get an FX4xxx when you can just get an A10-5800K that will match it once brought to the same clockspeeds, AND comes with a very nice IGP?

That's unless you're getting the FX to hold on temporarily to get a FX6 or a FX8 chip, of course.
   
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A10 5800k is close to FX 4300 while not to FX 4350 as shown.

Because of GPU in A10 5800k there is less overclocking on Air and water except if you turn off GPU and use a dedicated GPU.
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A10 5800k is close to FX 4300 while not to FX 4350 as shown.

Because of GPU in A10 5800k there is less overclocking on Air and water except if you turn off GPU and use a dedicated GPU.

There are FM 2 APU-s with the GPU disabled and they can t go to high in clocks.
You may have better chances with the full APU-s as the die is healthy.

The quads on the AM 3+ are useless.To expensive for what they are.
They should release only quad parts that can do 5 Ghz.

The boards that would take octo cores are more expensive than the FM 2 ones ,so if the price is a critical factor most of the people will choose the FM 2 as it gets them cheaper overall.
Also 4 cores are enough for playing games at decent levels.
   
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post #34 of 42
I think you guys are looking into it too much. They must have a decent amount of fx-6xxx chips. Aka chips with 1 defective module. And very few fx-4xxx chips that have 2 defective modules. Thus the close price and incentive to get the 6xxx over 4xxx.

If they had too many 4xxx chips the price would be lower because they are not going to sit on them. Much better selling them and making some money.

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I'm not sure if i would get a 4350, but the 6350 seems like a good refresh, havent tested it personally so i cant say, however i dont know where you people are getting your facts. AMD is tight on cash? you realize they own radeon cards right? you know that they have been outselling nvidia pretty much this entire last year. They aren't hurting at all.
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Core unlocking a no-go? Full cache means an 8320 or 8350 with faulty cores disabled, maybe?
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I'm not sure if i would get a 4350, but the 6350 seems like a good refresh, havent tested it personally so i cant say, however i dont know where you people are getting your facts. AMD is tight on cash? you realize they own radeon cards right? you know that they have been outselling nvidia pretty much this entire last year. They aren't hurting at all.

Speaking of facts, your facts are wrong. thumb.gif

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AMD is tight on cash? you realize they own radeon cards right? you know that they have been outselling nvidia pretty much this entire last year. They aren't hurting at all.

Wow, are you ever misinformed! Let me lay some knowledge on you:

GPU market share (source: Jon Peddie Research)
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BRAND   Q1'12 Q2'12 Q3'12 Q4'12
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AMD     37.8% 40.3% 35.7% 34.3%
NVIDIA  61.9% 59.3% 64.0% 65.7%

Not only that, but all four of NVIDIA's current-gen mainstream 1080p-capable single-GPU cards have outsold their AMD counterparts. Note that the 650 Ti BOOST and 7870XT haven't sold enough to merit charting on Steam's Hardware Survey.

Best-selling current-gen 1080p-capable cards (normalized to GTX 670 = 100%, source: Steam Hardware Survey)
Code:
GTX 670   100.0%
GTX 660    92.3%
GTX 660 Ti 79.1%
GTX 680    76.9%
HD 7850    76.5%
HD 7870    47.0%
HD 7950    45.7%
HD 7970    45.3%

Lastly, AMD's burning through cash and cash equivalents like nobody's business. Of course, having to give away $TEXAS in bundled games really doesn't help the per-card margins for the few Radeons that AMD actually does manage to sell...

Change in AMD's cash + equivalents in $MM (source: Yahoo Business)
Code:
Q2'12 Q3'12 Q4'12 Q1'13
-----------------------
-178M -239M -227M -108M

I hope that you've learned something. <<drops microphone>>
Edited by svenge - 5/25/13 at 1:20pm
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just saying you guys are showing that AMD, is down a couple hundered million. look at the future. They are making the processors for BOTH the next gen consoles, have a decent running in the video card market, aprox 40% i thought they were doing better. however you are talking about a company who in 2008 was a few billion negative. they might have been hurting in the last few months of 2012, but they are on an uptrend, with so much development coming out from them, they will not fail.
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