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8800GTX might have been considered overpriced but the lower end 8800/9800 cards that nearly matched its performance definitely weren't.. When the 250 launched it wasn't really a good purchase anymore though.
 
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8800GTX might have been considered overpriced but the lower end 8800/9800 cards that nearly matched its performance definitely weren't.. When the 250 launched it wasn't really a good purchase anymore though.

The 9800 series were arguably a good buy anymore, when they were more often than not more expensive than the 8800GTS 512, and essentially the same card. nVIDIA lost their mind milking them too much, and ATI's HD4850/HD4870/HD4890 cut into their marketshare like a freaking freight train...
   
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The 9800 series were arguably a good buy anymore, when they were more often than not more expensive than the 8800GTS 512, and essentially the same card. nVIDIA lost their mind milking them too much, and ATI's HD4850/HD4870/HD4890 cut into their marketshare like a freaking freight train...

9800 series was really cheap though and not really behind the 4850.

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

A 9800GT was $160, 4850 was $175. The 4870 on the other hand went against the 260/280 (which dropped in price after release) and the 4890 released much later.

This is getting pretty off topic though....

Latest info on the topic at hand is that VI will make its first appearance in Q4 as a 28nm part:

http://chinese.vr-zone.com/62871/byebye-sea-islands-and-hello-volcanic-islands-05122013/
 
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post #304 of 458
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9800 series was really cheap though and not really behind the 4850.

Not because it was behind, but because it was old. The 4850 was dirt cheap when it launched (it was MUCH cheaper than the 9800 series here in Spain, I'm talking of around 170€ for the 9800GT 512MB compared to 145€ for the HD4850, which also came with a very nice cooler compared to the extremely noisy and hot piece of junk the single slot G92 cooler was), and I remember it put to shame my 8800GT.
   
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Well after the prices had settled the MSRPs for the 8800/9800 cards were definitely lower. Retailers might gouge there but for the most part the cards were priced accordingly.

And again, OT/

Should be discussing VI
 
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And again, OT/

Should be discussing VI

Quoting a very famous comedian over here:



And yep, we should stick to the topic.
   
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Latest info on the topic at hand is that VI will make its first appearance in Q4 as a 28nm part:

http://chinese.vr-zone.com/62871/byebye-sea-islands-and-hello-volcanic-islands-05122013/

That's disappointing. Not nearly as much room for performance improvement on 28nm.
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you can basically count on it being 20nm. why else would they wait nearly 2 years?
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you can basically count on it being 20nm. why else would they wait nearly 2 years?

There's a bunch of reasons for AMD to have delayed these to Q4 if they're 28nm.
  • Too much resources spent on console hardware (not enough wafers and time for new GPUs)
  • Refining GCN might have taken a long time, again especially if a lot of engineers were working with sony/ms
  • Maybe they were trying to make new chips but they didn't meet expectations and they've done a bunch of revisions
  • Apple and other manufacturers needing ARM parts are taking too much of the 20nm process over at TSMC
  • etc.


Of course we don't and can't know about how true any of those are but they're strong possibilities. The new parts being 28nm has now been implied by at least a few relatively good sources including sweclockers and vr-zone. The info about them being 20nm is around 8 months old and it was from a time when AMD was assumed to bring out a refresh to the 7000 series in H1 2013.
Edited by Alatar - 5/13/13 at 2:15am
 
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9800 series was really cheap though and not really behind the 4850.

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A 9800GT was $160, 4850 was $175. The 4870 on the other hand went against the 260/280 (which dropped in price after release) and the 4890 released much later.

This is getting pretty off topic though....

Latest info on the topic at hand is that VI will make its first appearance in Q4 as a 28nm part:

http://chinese.vr-zone.com/62871/byebye-sea-islands-and-hello-volcanic-islands-05122013/

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you can basically count on it being 20nm. why else would they wait nearly 2 years?
Not sure if should get dual GTX780 or wait for AMD's offering.
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