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Nope...its a horrible program. Hardly protects at all.

I couldn't agree more. Being a white hat hacker, the program is ridiculously easy to get around it's sad. Those that say it doesnt pick any viruses up when they scan have no idea how easy it is to hide something from it.

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Originally Posted by chinesekiwi View Post

Sigh, same crap, different day:

People still don't get it
Also I'll add the greatest growing threat is from now rouge apps and malware on Android devices. You must have an AV solution on all Internet-connected devices if possible.

I laugh at all the 'common sense' peeps.

It's laughable that people go by the "common sense" mentality on the web. It is very easy to get hit by a drive by and they wouldn't even know. I could infect this very page with a drive by and the only ones that would know are those who use proper AV and the web admins of this site.

People have no idea about basic internet security, but hey I can't complain, keeps me in business.
post #112 of 120
What AV do you suggest XAslanX/chinesekiwi?
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post #113 of 120
For free AV, Avira and Avast are some of the toughest AV's to get around from my own personal testing.

For paid, kaspersky and bit defender are both very secure.
post #114 of 120
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I couldn't agree more. Being a white hat hacker, the program is ridiculously easy to get around it's sad. Those that say it doesnt pick any viruses up when they scan have no idea how easy it is to hide something from it.
It's laughable that people go by the "common sense" mentality on the web. It is very easy to get hit by a drive by and they wouldn't even know. I could infect this very page with a drive by and the only ones that would know are those who use proper AV and the web admins of this site.

People have no idea about basic internet security, but hey I can't complain, keeps me in business.

Allthough true, you also cant argue that script blocker prevents "most" Drive bys by stoping the vunerable extensions from being loaded wink.gif( of course it doesnt stop ones that target the browser (ie aurora off the top o my head), but alot of anti-virus dont catch that untill it binds

Also features like Execute disable / canaries / ALSR, play a big role in mitigating Zero days, again which isnt part o the anti-virus engine. (also on another note if you are the one writing the virus you should no that no anti-virus would pcik it up as it would be a new strain - that is if you arnt re-using code wink.gif )
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So using Chrome with Adblock and Flashblock would still pass said smiley faces through with no issues? Curious. Or would using noscript Firefox with the same addons be better?
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I couldn't agree more. Being a white hat hacker, the program is ridiculously easy to get around it's sad. Those that say it doesnt pick any viruses up when they scan have no idea how easy it is to hide something from it.
It's laughable that people go by the "common sense" mentality on the web. It is very easy to get hit by a drive by and they wouldn't even know. I could infect this very page with a drive by and the only ones that would know are those who use proper AV and the web admins of this site.

People have no idea about basic internet security, but hey I can't complain, keeps me in business.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't a drive by still need user interaction to infect?

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't a drive by still need user interaction to infect?

Depends. Most common exploits do indeed require user interaction to initiate the process, but the dangerous 'drivebys' can exploit bugs in a browser to run simply by visiting a webpage with the script.

However it is worth noting that a lot of 0-day malware and drive-by techniques are not used on the public (because they would quickly be patched/added to AV lists/heuristics), our information is not so important. They are sold and used on corporate networks, and kept away from the public to stay unknown from AV vendors, and prevent being patched.
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I see posting articles from 4 months ago passes as news so long as it's good bashing material.


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post #119 of 120
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For free AV, Avira and Avast are some of the toughest AV's to get around from my own personal testing.

For paid, kaspersky and bit defender are both very secure.

This. Avira's gone nagware thus I've boycotted it. Avast is very good and I recommend it for a 100% free solution, along with Comodo Firewall (if you know you are managing a firewall i.e. not clicking 'yes' on every firewall prompt and actually know what you are allowing / denying).
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Depends. Most common exploits do indeed require user interaction to initiate the process, but the dangerous 'drivebys' can exploit bugs in a browser to run simply by visiting a webpage with the script.

However it is worth noting that a lot of 0-day malware and drive-by techniques are not used on the public (because they would quickly be patched/added to AV lists/heuristics), our information is not so important. They are sold and used on corporate networks, and kept away from the public to stay unknown from AV vendors, and prevent being patched.

ehhh...you are aware the AV vendors track and sell corporate stuff as well?
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