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You're sure it's your first time build ? tongue.gif
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My hypothesis (which is purely academic as I don't have RAM blocks) is that your sticks will not have different temperatures if you WC them... simply because the amount of outward convection (or more accurately "transmission") will be so ridiculously low that you wouldn't be able to measure the differences between the innermost stick and the outermost one... I'm guessing the difference would be something like .05C or so - could be wrong (I often am) but my guess would be the fan would have absolutely no effect on them at all in that case.
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You're sure it's your first time build ? tongue.gif

Lol! Why? I'm late in the game, I know. But I'm doing my best to catch up with you guys. I'm learning each piece as I progress. Striving to get it right the first time.


Edited by Choice - 6/3/13 at 12:23am
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My hypothesis (which is purely academic as I don't have RAM blocks) is that your sticks will not have different temperatures if you WC them... simply because the amount of outward convection (or more accurately "transmission") will be so ridiculously low that you wouldn't be able to measure the differences between the innermost stick and the outermost one... I'm guessing the difference would be something like .05C or so - could be wrong (I often am) but my guess would be the fan would have absolutely no effect on them at all in that case.

Makes a lot of sense. Here is something else I'm thinking of though. Not everything will be water-cooled, no matter how much I'd to keep the temperature even throughout. I have a sound card that depends solely on air-cooling; and so are my hard drives and optical drives. But your hypothesis surely make a lot of sense. I'll hold off on making changes to the cooling loop at the moment. But water-cooling the RAM sticks is now down on my list of probable future changes.

 

Every time I open the case, the inside is so cool that I'm kinda wishing it's a little warmer!

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Oh I'm saying that because you seem extremely experienced actually smile.gif, for instance I am doing my first time build and just ordered two parts but the thing is I know half of what you know :'D
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Oh I'm saying that because you seem extremely experienced actually smile.gif, for instance I am doing my first time build and just ordered two parts but the thing is I know half of what you know :'D

Lol! You made me blush. I just know is how to use a screwdriver . . . maybe not quite. I read a lot. I've spent hours upon hours researching the various aspect of the build. I've watched a kazillion number of how-to-videos too. I have also built other things before now. And BTW, I know a little of of engineering science. That may be why it seems I know a little bit, but I'm practically just like you - just learning the process as I build.


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You learn pretty fast then, congrats again
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You learn pretty fast then, congrats again

Thanks, bro. Tell me about your build. Are you water-cooling? Custom water cooling? It's a slippery slope, albeit an exciting and addictive one. Once you start, it's hard to stop. I just ordered a new XSPC Twin Dual Bay reservior because I have an extra D-5 pump. So, in the end I'll have three pumps in the loop. I currently have two. I thought about ordering two of the XSPC Twin Dual Bay reservior; that would have resulted in 5 pumps in my loop. That would not have made it any cooler, but you can forget about any king of bottleneck due to any king of restriction in that sort of setup; that would be excessive insurance against pump failure. It would have been a massive overkill (really, one D-5 is able to service my loop well even at low speeds); plus, the redundant pumps actually dump heat into the loop. Regardless, I still lust after that kind of set-up and may get crazy enough one day to actually do it.


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I'm going with an AIO for now as my budget is limited and in six to twelve month I'll go with a custom loop. Here is my first build thread. It is indeed exciting going WC, and it becomes addicting that's for sure, you just end up wondering what you could do better, what kind of pump would work, what would look nice yet work well, etc. In your case you shouldn't have any kind of problem in a while though, you're well equipped wink.gif. Three pump in a loop, that sounds hardcore haha, can't wait for a series of nice pics my dear, you better do it. Three is already pretty big, five would have ended deteriorating your performance rather than ameliorating them, it would have been an insurance over an insurance in a way, and a heating one at that. If you do go for that later on, in this case and with the amount of fans is not going to be a problem, your temps are still going to be extremely low, and if there is any heat different it's going to be maximum 0.5 C, nothing to worry about wink.gif.
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I'm going with an AIO for now as my budget is limited and in six to twelve month I'll go with a custom loop. Here is my first build thread. It is indeed exciting going WC, and it becomes addicting that's for sure, you just end up wondering what you could do better, what kind of pump would work, what would look nice yet work well, etc. In your case you shouldn't have any kind of problem in a while though, you're well equipped wink.gif. Three pump in a loop, that sounds hardcore haha, can't wait for a series of nice pics my dear, you better do it. Three is already pretty big, five would have ended deteriorating your performance rather than ameliorating them, it would have been an insurance over an insurance in a way, and a heating one at that. If you do go for that later on, in this case and with the amount of fans is not going to be a problem, your temps are still going to be extremely low, and if there is any heat different it's going to be maximum 0.5 C, nothing to worry about wink.gif.

I see you've come a long way on your build. Good one, bro. It was a long thread; I can't remember whether you did buy the H100. I bought one of those - a refurbished one (for around &80, I think) from Newegg just for testing my components outside the case. It worked well. At low speed, I can tolerate the noise of the pump. Beyond that, I'll be bothered. Anyway, have you begum actually putting the parts together? It's so much fun knowing your computer in and out.

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