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Hi there! This will be my first water cooling setup and I plan on getting the parts as soon as possible, probably ordering by this week.

I've had my eye on one of the XSPC kits with 360 rad. Would this be good for a first timer or should I look at other options? If not, then should I go for the RS, RX, or EX? And finally should I splurge for the D5 pump (seems to add +$100 but dunno if the value is there).

Secondly I'm planning on getting a Switch 810, as most people say it's the best watercooling case. Unless there are other recommendations in the $150-200ish price range. Also would I need any case modding with the Switch 810 to accommodate an XSPC kit? What about a 480 rad?

Third, I'm planning on adding the gpu, so I'll need gpu block recommendations. My card is a Sapphire 7950, but I'd much prefer a universal block and any recommended ramsinks, as there's good chance I'll be upgrading in the future.

Thanks in advance!
post #2 of 47
To me with all the upgrades you want to do why not just buy the switch 810 primochill advance lrt tubing in 1/2x3/4 tubing appropriate fittings. Buy a Mcp 35x pump a ex 360 rad for the top of the switch and ut60 for the bottom and the RAY STORM CPU BLOCK a heatkiller gpu block and be done with it. The kits are not bad but its not ideal if you want to upgrade a lot just piece it together and be happy and have fun with it.
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The Switch 810 is by no means the best watercooling case. It is simply incredibly versatile for its price. The best watercooling cases are going to be Danger Den, Little Devil, Case Labs, and the Corsair 900D (very open, unlike the coffin know as the 800D). However, for a budget, go for the Switch 810. If you want a better case, but with less option, consider a Corsair 650D. Better build quality, looks better (in my opinion), and moderate watercooling support.

An XSPC 360mm kit will be great for a first-timer. Decent stuff, nothing individually too great, except maybe the radiator. Other than that, it will all be standard or sub-standard. Whatever you do, though, don't get a universal block with passive sinks. It looks ugly as sin, and is much worse performing than a fullcover block. Assuming your Sapphire 7950 is reference, I would grab a Heatkiller GPU3 797X block, with the optional backplate. If you can wait, Alphacool is coming out with some active backplates that cool your RAM actively, rather than just use a sink. Very nice looking, but more expensive (as all Alphacool stuff is - fantastic quality, but high premium).
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Corsair 650D is a mid tower case, and I want a full tower for more space. As far as I can tell, Switch 810 is the best watercooling friendly full tower case for $150.

Do you recommend buying in custom parts then rather than a kit? I'm moreso of afraid of things going wrong or missing a part or two, hence considering the kit. Also the XSPC kits seem to be highly reviewed on overclock.net.

Ugliness is not a big deal, and nor is the cooling performance. I'm not aiming to cool it perfectly to ambient + heavy overclock. I'm more aiming to simply silence the computer; maybe a moderate-low overclock. Plus once I change cards, what do I do with the 7950 only gpu block?
post #5 of 47
Man, their needs to be a sticky or something with watercooling components for new watercooling peeps to look at. Seems I've been recommending the same parts to each person that has questions in regarding to their first wc build. rolleyes.gif

If you really want to get into watercooling, I recommend going big the first time, and not having to worry later. Don't look at any kits, go for separate components for better build quality. Chad4050 has you pointed in the right direction. thumb.gif Not sure about that CPU block. The Switch 810 is indeed a great case for a simple watercooling build, you can put a 360rad up top, a 240 on the bottom, and even a 120 at the rear. If I wasn't crazy into modding my TJ07, I would have gotten myself the Switch810. wink.gif
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XSPC EX420 (3x140mm) Radiator - $70
Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 240 Radiator - $70
XSPC Raystorm / Koolance CPU-380i / Swiftech Apogee HD - $60/$85/$65
Watercool Heatkiller GPUx3 "Hole Edition" GPU Block + Backplate - $145
Mix of Bitspower 45/90 Single/Dual Rotary Adapters - $75-125
2x 6-Packs Monsoon 1/2x3/4 Compression Fittings - $75
10ft Primochill Advanced LRT 1/2x3/4 Tubing - $20
6x 140mm Bgears Blasters (P-P EX420) - $66
4x 120mm Fans (P-P UT60) - $40-60
Bitspower 150/250mL Cylinder Res - $38-45
Swiftech MCP35X Pump + Heatsink - $100
   
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post #7 of 47
Thread Starter 
I don't think I need 3 gpu blocks for one gpu, and I don't need 360 + 240 rads.

Would an EX480 fit on the top of the Switch 810? Or should I simply get a 360 rad?

So I guess I'll take you guys' advice and just go all in. Here's what I have so far:

Switch 810: $152
http://www.amazon.com/NZXT-Technologies-Switch-810-Gunmetal/dp/B0081CRU2U/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1368230510&sr=1-2&keywords=switch+810

MCP655: $77
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_971_240_582&products_id=34382

Koolance CPU-380i: $75
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_971_498_491&products_id=36055

Swiftech MCW82: $40
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_971_240_582&products_id=34499

Swiftech HD7900 Heatsink: $54
http://www.swiftech.com/hd7900-hsf.aspx

Alphacool UT60 3x120: $96
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_457_667_1075&products_id=32770

Bitspower 150mL cyl: $36
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_318_657&products_id=26442

Primochill 1/2x3/4: $25
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=292_1154

Corsair SP120 4x: $56
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-SP120-Quiet-Twin-CO-9050006-WW/dp/B007RESFR2/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1368282821&sr=1-1&keywords=corsair+air+fan+sp120+quiet

Monsoon 1/2x3/4: $78
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_346_1026_1028&products_id=33208

Silver KillCoil: $7
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=28871

Distilled water: $0
Stop and Shop?

watercooling total: $547 + shipping
(+152 Switch 810 = $699 + shipping)

Am I missing anything?

edit: price fix
Edited by MingoDynasty - 5/11/13 at 8:30am
post #8 of 47
Not sure why everyone is advising a full on custom loop for someone just starting out???? And the same components. .. Little houses on a hill side, little houses made of ticky tacky..... sorry There are a lot of good options other than a Heatkiller GPU block. Most have performance within a few degrees and should come down to case theme, personal preference, ect., ect.

A XSPC kit is a great way to start! I would recommend a D5 kit for longevity. A RX 360 is a awesome performer and can cool both cpu and gpu. The kit also includes savings when you look at having to buy fans and fittings. I personally use 2 separate loops, but have been accumulating parts over a year or so.

The parts you have listed look decent, but I would definitely recommend a full coverage waterblock over a universal.
    
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post #9 of 47
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Everyone tells me to go for the full cover gpu block over a universal, but are they really worth $125+? A cpu block is $50-75 and can be reused for many upgrades, provided I can get new mountings when necessary. But again, what do I do with the gpu block when I upgrade video cards?
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A full cover waterblock is specifically designed for a single gpu. A universal does not have coverage for vrms . and even the best vrm heatsinks do not compare to full coverage block. When you upgrade, what are you going to do with the card? Sell it? A waterblock will add value and bring a greater return. Or you can sell it separately.
Look for something specific to your build. As I mentioned, they are all pretty close when it comes to actual cooling and comes down to look and preference. A XSPC D5 kit with RX 360 is around $300 a full coverage waterblock about $100 - $125. Those UT60's are the latest and greatest, but a RX360 should provide similar performance. 60mm vs. 56mm?? And save yourself some money if you want and go with XSPC fittings. $ 3.99 a piece, can't be beat. Also EK 45* and 90* fittings are fairly cheap and can be matched( chrome or black chrome) to the XSPC fittings. Performance PC's are actually running a mother's day special of 5% off right now. Look on the net for coupon code.
    
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