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Get an XSPC D5 raystorm kit in the size of your choice then add a GPU block down the road if you are sure you are not upgrading for a while.
Nothing wrong with a kit at all,seems to be a bit of weird advice being given about them being poor.
You can spend as much or as little as you like,there is no need to blow vast chunks of cash right away.

The comment about uni blocks being poor is rubbish,they perform better than a full cover but you need to arrange passive cooling of the VRAM and VRM sections.



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Get an XSPC D5 raystorm kit in the size of your choice then add a GPU block down the road if you are sure you are not upgrading for a while.
Nothing wrong with a kit at all,seems to be a bit of weird advice being given about them being poor.
You can spend as much or as little as you like,there is no need to blow vast chunks of cash right away.

The comment about uni blocks being poor is rubbish,they perform better than a full cover but you need to arrange passive cooling of the VRAM and VRM sections.



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So, water cooled vrms are not as good as passive. I think not. I didn't say uniblocks are poor. I simply stated they do not include cooling for vrms. It's more of a challenge to install a uni block and separate passive cooling for vrms than a single full coverage solution. also have to worry more about airflow in the case than fully watercooled.
    
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I was originally going to get an RX or RS360 kit, but some guys here on OCN talked me into spending the extra for an EX360 kit that included a D5. It also came with 6 compression fittings, which was nice. The D5 is very quiet, and can handle multiple blocks; I think it's worth the extra cash.
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The Switch 810 is by no means the best watercooling case. It is simply incredibly versatile for its price. The best watercooling cases are going to be Danger Den, Little Devil, Case Labs, and the Corsair 900D (very open, unlike the coffin know as the 800D). However, for a budget, go for the Switch 810. If you want a better case, but with less option, consider a Corsair 650D. Better build quality, looks better (in my opinion), and moderate watercooling support.

An XSPC 360mm kit will be great for a first-timer. Decent stuff, nothing individually too great, except maybe the radiator. Other than that, it will all be standard or sub-standard. Whatever you do, though, don't get a universal block with passive sinks. It looks ugly as sin, and is much worse performing than a fullcover block. Assuming your Sapphire 7950 is reference, I would grab a Heatkiller GPU3 797X block, with the optional backplate. If you can wait, Alphacool is coming out with some active backplates that cool your RAM actively, rather than just use a sink. Very nice looking, but more expensive (as all Alphacool stuff is - fantastic quality, but high premium).

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Get an XSPC D5 raystorm kit in the size of your choice then add a GPU block down the road if you are sure you are not upgrading for a while.
Nothing wrong with a kit at all,seems to be a bit of weird advice being given about them being poor.
You can spend as much or as little as you like,there is no need to blow vast chunks of cash right away.

The comment about uni blocks being poor is rubbish,they perform better than a full cover but you need to arrange passive cooling of the VRAM and VRM sections.



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So, water cooled vrms are not as good as passive. I think not. I didn't say uniblocks are poor. I simply stated they do not include cooling for vrms. It's more of a challenge to install a uni block and separate passive cooling for vrms than a single full coverage solution. also have to worry more about airflow in the case than fully watercooled.
Ask yourself this....was I talking about you?
As for mounting,the ones I have used have a mount similar to a CPU block,very simple indeed...being able to work the right side up rather than on its front trying to do up multiple screws while not moving the block is easier by far.
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negative is correct. I would start off with the kit for now. You can add anything you want, when ever you want. I would also suggest the D5 version of the kit, and radiator size that fits your needs.

The whole GPU block thing is all on the user. I started out with the universal blocks, only cuz i wanted to be able to transplant them to GPU upgrades. I would be sure you're gonna hold on to your GPU's for quite a while before you get full cover blocks. I had 4 types of cards under universals, before I bought my full covers. Which I found at micro center for $20 each. I got lucky.

Build your loop completely (core components) before you bite the $100 plus bullet on full cover blocks.

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I had unaversal blocks on 480s and it cooked one . On new 580 I bought a full water block and love the 3 pounds of copper on the gpu . As for tubes I got 7/16 on 1/2 fittings needs hot water to make rubber expand to fit around the fittings .
All what is needed to cool pc is 1 -120 mm rad + 120 per device cooled so u want to cool CPU and gpu 360 rad needed I got 480 in 700 d
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I had unaversal blocks on 480s and it cooked one . On new 580 I bought a full water block and love the 3 pounds of copper on the gpu . As for tubes I got 7/16 on 1/2 fittings needs hot water to make rubber expand to fit around the fittings .
All what is needed to cool pc is 1 -120 mm rad + 120 per device cooled so u want to cool CPU and gpu 360 rad needed I got 480 in 700 d

Well, i wouldn't recomend using universals on 480's. If you put one on a card like that, I would leave the stock heatsink for the rest of the card. Only taking off the "GPU" part of the cooler.
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Well, i wouldn't recomend using universals on 480's. If you put one on a card like that, I would leave the stock heatsink for the rest of the card. Only taking off the "GPU" part of the cooler.
What is wrong using universal GPU blocks on a 480 rad?
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A full cover waterblock is specifically designed for a single gpu. A universal does not have coverage for vrms . and even the best vrm heatsinks do not compare to full coverage block. When you upgrade, what are you going to do with the card? Sell it? A waterblock will add value and bring a greater return. Or you can sell it separately.
Look for something specific to your build. As I mentioned, they are all pretty close when it comes to actual cooling and comes down to look and preference. A XSPC D5 kit with RX 360 is around $300 a full coverage waterblock about $100 - $125. Those UT60's are the latest and greatest, but a RX360 should provide similar performance. 60mm vs. 56mm?? And save yourself some money if you want and go with XSPC fittings. $ 3.99 a piece, can't be beat. Also EK 45* and 90* fittings are fairly cheap and can be matched( chrome or black chrome) to the XSPC fittings. Performance PC's are actually running a mother's day special of 5% off right now. Look on the net for coupon code.
Yeah I know a full cover gpu block will perform amazing. However I don't really need amazing performance, as my only goal is to silence the computer. A universal gpu block + ram/vrm heatsinks would be more than enough for me.

Usually when I upgrade I will keep the card and give it to friends/family as a hand-me-down (or small sale). However for the 7950s I will probably keep them for awhile and toss them into mining rigs, heh.

By the time I do sell it, the card is most likely at least 2 generations old. A gpu block will add value, but it seems like the GPU block is the only part that rapidly depreciates in value. A good pump and cpu block for example is worth $50-75 today and will likely be worth about the same 5 years from now.

I dunno I guess I just find it hard to justify paying $150 on top of a gpu, when I could just spend that $150 on a faster gpu (or even another gpu) and have much less depreciation.

Thanks for the heads up on the code. 5% off of $500+ is some good savings smile.gif
In that case I will definitely order everything by tomorrow. Is there anything wrong with the custom parts I listed or anything I should absolutely change (or add)? I'm willing to shell out a little more cash for the custom vs a kit if you guys recommend it, due to most water cooling parts generally keeping their value pretty well anyways.

The one doubt I have is the radiator size. Can I really fit a 480 rad on the Switch 810? Or should I just stick with a 360?
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As 480rad I believe you can ask the switch 810 forms they said ya On thick 480 rad . As for the unaversal block on my 480 gtx I took off the gpu cooler and left the bottom part on , after a few 90 deg days the ram took a .... Well u know after that I got a water block after a trade up on a 480 to evga for 580gtx had 480 @ 800? MHz my 580 at 950 core hits 62 degs on water that's cooler then on stock speed on stock cooler .

I still say 7/16 over 1/2 fittings not a leak over 2 years
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Dont waste your money on those corsair fans. Get something better and quieter.
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