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post #11 of 17
Radiators are measured in length, which will usually be based off of 120mm and 140mm fans, and thickness, which will be between 20 and 45mm usually.

The common rad sizes are:

120mm based - 120, 240, 360, 480

140mm based - 140, 280, 420, 560

Anything larger or smaller probably isn't worth it.
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post #12 of 17
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Ya i figured it out, just devided by the fan size was like DUH. lol

BUT what about dimensions of ENTIRE rad, I mean if you have a case that has 2 140mm fans one on top of the other, then any rad thats 280mm should fit right? what about the clearance of the inlet and end caps?

would the seller/retailer/manufacture have the total dimensions listed usually, or are they usually similar?

thanks for the help btw
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post #13 of 17
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Here are links to what I am going to get.

leaving out fittings and thermal pads for what ever needs them once i go thru and re evaluate I will decide on those but how do these things look?

compatible? good? BAD?

Pump/Res:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_367&products_id=36680

CPU Block:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_971_498_490&products_id=34420

GPU Block:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_971_240_579&products_id=37452

Chipset Block:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_971_241_589&products_id=35207

Question about this one: it seems only two things come with it but the motherboard has three I think i couldn't find anything about the northbridge mosfets or the part immediately to the left of the CPU (NB i believe) again this is the RIVE mobo

RAM Block:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_971_294&products_id=32402

Will need two of these, also the pic is red, but the description is black, which is what I want to coordinate with the other blocks

RADIATORS:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_457_458&products_id=34835
for the top

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_457_667_1075&products_id=34155
for the front perhaps once accurately measured will ultimately decide the front one.


For the pump res I like that, hope its a good one, it looks nice.

perhaps I will go with the DC5 mentioned with a combo I see like the pump on bottom and the res (cylinder) on top of it. space permitting.


SOOOOO. What kind of fittings should I get, do I need?

I prefer to get compression fittings all the way around, unless they cannot be used with certain blocks.

thoughts, suggestions?
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post #14 of 17
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Originally Posted by Fieldsweeper View Post

Ya i figured it out, just devided by the fan size was like DUH. lol

BUT what about dimensions of ENTIRE rad, I mean if you have a case that has 2 140mm fans one on top of the other, then any rad thats 280mm should fit right? what about the clearance of the inlet and end caps?

would the seller/retailer/manufacture have the total dimensions listed usually, or are they usually similar?

thanks for the help btw

Each rad has different physical sizes. You'll have to check the stat sheets for each model at the manufacturer's website, and then add a couple mm of "fuzzy" space because sometimes quality can be quite shoddy and measurements don't size up.

As for your setup:
That pump/res combo seems awfully expensive. The PMP400 is based off of DDC3.1, which is sort of old already. Variable pump speeds based on temperatures aren't wholly necessary, and you may find it more annoying to have the pump ramp up and down depending on your load, because the change in noise may be more noticeable than a constant set-and-forget speed. Pumps aren't too loud.

Everything else: Looks fine. If you've got extra money to blow, go for ram blocks, but they're usually seen as a waste of money, add unnecessary restriction, and add complexity to loop.

Rad: The limiting factor for front rad is height. Once you gut the bottom of the 5.25 bay you can have as thick of a rad as you want. No need to go ST45.
post #15 of 17
Ok sorry to be rude...


We are glad to help but please stop bumping your own thread because people don't answer instantly, this isn't IM it's a forum.

Now also onto double posting and consecutive posting
(There is a little button that has a icon of a pen/pencil at the bottom left of the post box, this is the edit button. Use it is your best friend.)


As people have said the DDC 3.1 is a little older and weaker than other options........the DDC-1T Plus 3.2 18W is what you want for tight loops over the D5.


But the biggest piece of advice is, don't blow money just because you can at the moment. Take your time and do some research, real research. I don't mean to sound mean, but if you ask for advice and the a model of a pump is mentioned and you get confused with the D5. I don't think that LC is something you should take on at the moment...
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Originally Posted by smash_mouth01 View Post

Ok sorry to be rude...


We are glad to help but please stop bumping your own thread because people don't answer instantly, this isn't IM it's a forum.

Now also onto double posting and consecutive posting
(There is a little button that has a icon of a pen/pencil at the bottom left of the post box, this is the edit button. Use it is your best friend.)


As people have said the DDC 3.1 is a little older and weaker than other options........the DDC-1T Plus 3.2 18W is what you want for tight loops over the D5.


But the biggest piece of advice is, don't blow money just because you can at the moment. Take your time and do some research, real research. I don't mean to sound mean, but if you ask for advice and the a model of a pump is mentioned and you get confused with the D5. I don't think that LC is something you should take on at the moment...

Sorry about bumping, but when I see threads like post your last eatn food (gross) with a million posts an hour it kinda gets irritating when you cant get any help for something when you are on here alot and try to help others with something that I can.

and there is no need to be a complete expert on EVERY detail before getting your hands dirty. I know a thing or two about pumps, albiet saltwater pumps. but computer pumps TEND to be a little different, mainly in GP/h and power requirements lol.

and ya I know I could have edited some and with in a few min i would / do, but if its like a half hour or more or a day, then bumping it especially with new info isnt too bad. now. just plain BUMP ya I can see.

I am just a little impatient. smile.gif
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post #17 of 17
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Sorry about bumping, but when I see threads like post your last eatn food (gross) with a million posts an hour it kinda gets irritating when you cant get any help for something when you are on here alot and try to help others with something that I can.

and there is no need to be a complete expert on EVERY detail before getting your hands dirty. I know a thing or two about pumps, albiet saltwater pumps. but computer pumps TEND to be a little different, mainly in GP/h and power requirements lol.

and ya I know I could have edited some and with in a few min i would / do, but if its like a half hour or more or a day, then bumping it especially with new info isnt too bad. now. just plain BUMP ya I can see.

I am just a little impatient. smile.gif

Yeah I understand what your saying about post being eaten up.....lol this place is hungry....lol but it does say in the TOS that you shouldn't bump posts before the 24 hour period...or something along those lines.....It may be more of a common courtesy.

No there is no need to be an expert at all, but there is failure in knowing nothing, and when you are playing with gear like yours I wouldn't take the risk without learning more. All it takes is one foul move and that GTX titan would be toast...and I don't think anyone would like that, especially if it has to do with something you did or didn't do for the lack of knowledge.

There isn't a huge amount of difference between "normal" pumps and the ones we commonly talk about. The big difference is that we talk about are industrial pumps...

There is only really 2 things to know about pumps that will effect what you buy in water cooling..

1) being how complex the loop is..

This will determine what pump, whether it's a D5 or a DDC 3.1T .......the D5 has a larger flow....up to 1200 LPH (I think, don't quote me) but have a lesser pressure head. The DDC has a stronger head pressure so it is favored in complex loops.

Then there is whether you need an extra booster pump.

2) How much room for a pump do you have......aka there is no sense in getting a D5 if you are using a M-itx case....there won't be much room.

With radiators it's a general rule of thumb that you need a 120mm rad space per device in your loop.. that will get you decent temps.... but for what your doing I would go 2x 240 rads.. or 1x 360 and 1x 120mm...

then there is the question you have to ask, "do I want pure performance or do I want to set this up for real silent performance, this will also dictate what rads and fans to buy.


Edit:

it's a DDC 1-T Plus 3.2, my bad....
Edited by smash_mouth01 - 5/12/13 at 5:16pm
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