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simple solution - buy powered usb hub with +5V 4A psu wink.gif
I have three 5V USB power bricks which are supposed to give out 2A - but they are cheap Chinese ones so I'm not sure they actually do. At least a while ago when I tried to power these things through these it did not work all the time. I guess I will need to get some-kind of powered USB hub indeed for this so this is a good suggestion.
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Can you power them using molex?
Unfortunately no. The controller boards I used draw their power through USB and exceed the official specification by quite a wide margin when doing so. I believe the power draw should peak out somewhere around 1.5 A while official spec allows only up to 0.5 A over USB.

I will get it sorted though sooner or later. Will just need some better way of powering these than USB ports on my PC which I used currently.
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A small update. You can indeed to two Eyefinity groups on two different GFX cards.



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Two screens are at 100% backlight the one in the right was remaining at 50% backlight (bcos of power issues). The Chinese USB power bricks I have do not do even 1 A regardless of having fancy stickers on them promising 2000 mA as with these the screens do not even power on at 50% backlight.

The 5 screen one is using 7950 FleX card while the 3x ipad ones are using the Club3D 7870 Eyefinity 6 card. The first array is in portrait and second array is in flipped portrait so orientation does not need to be same either. The font size in Notepad is 72. Seems also that during the assembly I have managed to damage slightly the leftmost screen as there is small cluster of dead pixels at the bottom of the screen. It's relatively close to the edge though and with high ppi the screen remains in general usable, hopefully the cluster does not get any larger than it is already.


The total cost of the setup in my case:
3x screens ~150 EUR
3x Controllers ~100 EUR
Total ~250 EUR for the screen array.

The backplate and screws were perhaps about 5 EUR or so in materials (as one can see it's just a wooden plate and small wood screws so pretty cheap setup). Ofc to make it actually usable I have also approx 100 EUR VESA stand so total budget is more like 350 EUR. Plus whatever I will have to spend for getting these things powered properly, but I'm expecting to get away with approx 25..30 EUR for that.

Note that the ppi on these screens is somewhat higher than I anticipated (having not seen the ipad retina screens myself before actually ordering these chinese ripoffs) so I'm not 100% confident the screen array is actually usable. I will find out over the next week or two though I expect after I drag this screen to work, put it into that VESA stand and mount it into my face (planning to have it at approx 30 cm from my eyes). So we will see.
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http://www.panelook.com/LQ140Z1JW01_SHARP_14.0_LCM_overview_21467.html

LQ140Z1JW01
IGZO TFT-LCD, Panel
14.0 inch
3200(RGB)X1800 (Quad-HD+)


&

https://www.laptopscreen.com/English/model/HP-Compaq/ENVY~14-K100~SERIES~TOUCHSMART~ULTRABOOK/


HP-Compaq ENVY 14-K100 SERIES TOUCHSMART ULTRABOOK

Size:

14.0-inch WideScreen (12"x7.4")

QHD+ (3200x1800)

I want to use one of these Panels to make a homemade Cintiq with my Intuos 5 Large, but neither one of these panels are available to average buyers yet and because they are not out there- no one is working on a board to drive them. Is this going to change?
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http://www.panelook.com/LQ140Z1JW01_SHARP_14.0_LCM_overview_21467.html

LQ140Z1JW01
IGZO TFT-LCD, Panel
14.0 inch
3200(RGB)X1800 (Quad-HD+)


&

https://www.laptopscreen.com/English/model/HP-Compaq/ENVY~14-K100~SERIES~TOUCHSMART~ULTRABOOK/


HP-Compaq ENVY 14-K100 SERIES TOUCHSMART ULTRABOOK

Size:

14.0-inch WideScreen (12"x7.4")

QHD+ (3200x1800)

I want to use one of these Panels to make a homemade Cintiq with my Intuos 5 Large, but neither one of these panels are available to average buyers yet and because they are not out there- no one is working on a board to drive them. Is this going to change?

they're in production now, you won't see them for avail/cheap for a long while. eDP, i'd imagine someone with some know how can make a board for it, since ipad/mbp uses eDP.
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you need 3x micro usb cable, active usb hub with psu , instead psu you can use adapter like this

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I managed to get all 3 working at 100% back-light by making use of some of the USB 3.0 ports in my rig. Apparently the USB ports are grouped by two on my mobo and the maximum current draw is shared between the pair. When I put it so that I'm drawing power from only one of the paired USB ports then I were able to exceed 1 A limit encountered earlier. The Molex idea for drawing power is good. I was actually already looking around for straight Molex to USB cable as that way there should be no current limit before you hit the PSU limit, which is somewhere far off at 10 or 20 A for 5V rail.


I'm still not entirely sure I like such high ppi screens, however, I must say that picture for sure is damn sharp, especially when getting close enough. I think I might be getting used to such high ppi though slowly. The screens still have the protective foil on them which I'm planning to remove once I get them set up in the VESA stand at work in few days. Would like to play around with them a bit more at home, but wife already informed me that "she thinks I have enough screens already" so I will make use of the little screens at work for a little while. Having all that screen real estate is awesome ofc. Altogether 19.8 megapixels. Pity the ipad screens are atm in a bit awkward spot to make proper use of them (just sitting flat on my deks atm).

For added bonus couple of "print screen" screenshots of the current desktop biggrin.gif
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The game is EVE Online in there. The screens are actually enough to run 6 clients at 1536x1020 reso which seems to be pretty usable. The text in chat windows is actually a bit too small to be comfortable, but that might be bcos the screens are atm about twice of the intended distance from me. If that turns out to be issue this game supports ofc font size adjustments for most things. I have covered the info in there that identifies my characters and their current locations in game as I have atm active wardec going in there and it's not healthy to advertise that kind of info in that game wink.gif

Overall I think I'm pretty pleased on how things turned out. I would like the back-light control's to be more granular though. Will have to ask Mark (from abusemark shop from where I ordered these) if he has new firmware out for these. I did notice that he seems to have new revision of these controllers which are intended to be mounted with just two sided tape instead of having to use screws like with mine.

Edit: Information about different revisions of these controllers. My controllers are Rev.0 and the ones currently for sale are Rev.1 - the firmware between revisions is not compatible as some pin layouts and back-light controller have changed. However, Mark has done a modified version of Rev.0 firmware which boots at 100% back-light intensity instead of 50% like the default firmware did for me which he was nice enough to mail me. I'll flash my firmware in few days and cross my fingers that everything goes well.
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Okay, I would REALLY like to know which controller board you used for this. I bought a set off Ebay and one of the chips caught fire.

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ok, I just bought 4th panel IUAX14S 15" 1600x1200 IPS
95zł - (~30$) incl shipping

I need two more so eyefinity 4800x2400 maybe? :O
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ok, I just bought 4th panel IUAX14S 15" 1600x1200 IPS
95zł - (~30$) incl shipping

I need two more so eyefinity 4800x2400 maybe? :O

Very nice biggrin.gif Given the panels resolutions you would even get away with reference GFX card and two MST hubs. About Eyefinity, though, I would go 5x1 portrait TBH and try to get the screens in a slightly "curved" setup. something like that:


The reason why I suggest that is that I have found that I do not like even numbered Eyefinity setups at all. I.e., 2 screen, 4 screen and (I assume have not tried actually 6 screen one myself) 6 screen Eyefinity suck. In these configurations you end up with bezel "in the middle of your face" either vertically, both or horizontally. In that regard odd numbered configurations like 1,3 and 5 are better. While (last two) still have bezels they are not in your focus and as such are much easier to ignore most of the time.

Having the setup "curved" is not essential, but it helps a bit with 5 screen setup as the displays are more perpendicular to your location that way usually and at more uniform distance from you. The way your screens are done it would be probably a lot more straightforwards to just have all 5 in straight line and with IPS it is not that highly essential to have them perpendicular to you.

That way you would get basically 6000x1600 pixel screen array. Approx 45'' x 12'' with ~ 47'' diagonal.
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This seems like a good spot to ask this question....

working on a triple screen project with alienware 17.3 inch lcds... Using these panels
http://www.panelook.com/B173HW01%20V4_AUO_17.3_LCM_overview_738.html

trying to figure out if anyone has used these controllers, all signs point to them working perfect for me, but I want to know before I drop the money on them.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HDMI-DVI-VGA-Audio-Controller-Board-for-17-3inch-1920-1080-B173HW01-N173HGE-L11-/400616088439#ht_5529wt_806


For more info on what my plans are.
I have a m17xr4 with a gtx680m in it, I am ordering 2 extra screens (with lid/bezels).
Goal is to make a set of monitors that I can plug in and triple screen with my laptop smile.gif
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