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Don't bother. Here's a 2008 comparison (and the technology for HDD hasn't changed since): http://www.maximumpc.com/article/the_disk_defrag_difference

The default defragger is fine. It runs weekly by default on any disk with greater than 0RPM.

The performance or space reclaimed difference is so marginal that it does not matter anymore. Defragging should be a background task that people do not have to worry about like virtual memory or thread-core assignment.

    That comparison doesn't prove anything.  It looks like they don't know anything at all about things like the Windows Prefetcher (what prefetcher, you say?), and I find their test to be very flawed.  Of course system performance will degrade.  Windows has to rebuild its Prefetcher cache (the data in there is all wrong after a thorough defrag).  And why does their system take ONE HUNDERED AND SEVENTY TWO seconds to boot?!!!  My slowest computer here boots Windows (I'm specifically excluding the BIOS here) in <45 seconds and the fastest one in about 20 seconds!  They range in age from 4–8 years old, and all of them use HDDs.  Although, I've defragmented them all with an experimental defragmenter that I wrote...maybe that's the catch...

    "What defragmenter to use" is a question that I've been asked so many times that I'm planning to run a test soon.  Actually, I want to see how my defragmenter measure up against the competition...biggrin.gif  I will be using a slow computer (2.4 GHz Pentium 4) with an old, clunky HDD.  This will improve the time resolution (i.e. the more slowness that comes from the computer and HDD will ensure that the amount of error introduced by my inaccuracy with a stopwatch will be nil).  I will be measuring things like "how long does it take for program "Xxxx" to be ready after it's launched?"  Perhaps we'll all learn something! thumb.gif
 
Edited by Techie007 - 5/15/13 at 5:11am
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A good tip when defragging a drive... Never do it from the host OS. Run one of the recommended programs from hirens or another live CD that way the entire HDD can be accessed.

My preferred method:

Boot to hirens Mini XP and then run Ultradefrag portable (my personal favorite) full optimization.
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Nope..

 

Then can you take a screenshot of what you're talking about?

 

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Nope..

And it took a little over six hours to do my drive... O.O

It's my 500GB boot.

 

Oh good, then you used Defrag & Optimize?

 

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How do i make it so it runs in the background as you said?

 

Oh, so you haven't gone through the settings yet. I recommend doing that.

 

For this particular setting, click the Settings menu, choose "Program Settings", and enable these two options:

 

  • Minimize to system tray on close
  • Start automatically on Windows logon

 

Then, click the View menu and choose "Scheduled Defragmentation". Alternatively, click the little clock icon on the lower-left corner of the whole window.

 

Enable the option called "Defragment automatically". Then, you can choose "When PC is idle" and then select how long the computer needs to be idle for in order to begin defragging. Regardless of that idle time you select, it will not defrag more than once every 12 hours in order to minimize hard drive wear.

 

You can also tell it to defrag Daily, Weekly or Monthly. Depending on the setting, you'll see other settings that go with it.

 

All settings that you set up take effect the moment you set them. So, there's no OK or Apply button.

 

When you're finished, you can either click the List of Disks icon that's located directly above the Scheduled Defragmentation icon (the little clock) in the lower-left corner, or you can click the "Back to disks" link, or you can click the View menu and choose "List of Disks".

 

Another way to get to the Scheduled Defragmentation area is, click the Settings menu and then choose "Scheduler".

 

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    That pricked me to research some more on SSDs and wear leveling!  This is what I found: The SSD has a map that it uses to translate LBAs (Logical Block Addresses, this is the offset of our physical disk "file") to the cells where it has internally stored the data.  Using a scheme of some sort, the SSD basically will swap out a cell expending write cycles faster than the others.  However, this all happens inside of the SSD, where the translation is done transparently.  So, a single I/O operation to "read 4,194,304 bytes at LBA 127,693" will still have a I/O synchronization latency; and internally, the SSD will have to do some very quick jockeying to return the data for that single read operation.  A request to "read 4,096 bytes at LBA 127,693" will have the same I/O synchronization latency (and the SSD will probably only have to read one block).
    Physically, your disk's partitions and data are stored in randomly assigned blocks on the SSD.  However, that all stays inside of the SSD.  The SSD has to behave like a regular disk, where the volume offsets and data offsets stay where Windows put them.  The "fragmentation" inside the SSD doesn't really mean anything; who knows, they could even use a parallel storage scheme to increase throughput even more!  However, the NTFS filesystem data still fragments on a SSD just like it does on a HDD. 
    Thus, everything about file fragmentation still stands on an SSD (on a very fragmented file, the NTFS driver will still have to do a lot of short reads instead of a few large reads), it's just much, much less of a problem because SSDs are so fast that the delay will not even be noticeable in most cases.  What doesn't stand on a SSD is disk layout.  On a HDD, the beginning of the disk reads data ~2x faster than the end, and sequential read speeds are frequently up to 10x faster than random access speeds.  On a SSD, that is not the case; thus, any defragmenter that simply removes fragments only from files that have a pile of fragments (without rearranging the entire disk) will be more than adequate for a SSD.

    My conclusion is that while good defragmentation can cause major performance improvements on a HDD, it is rarely if ever needed on a SSD.  Ok, it's only needed on an SSD when you have a scenario like this: Two programs are recording a concert with a laptop: two stereo WAV files and an AVI file are being written simultaneously, and they get interleaved on the disk, with 100,000+ fragments for the AVI file and 50,000+ fragments for the two WAV files.  I actually had this happen.  Windows thought it was a good idea to start all three files a few KB from each other, and of course they collided—again and again! rolleyes.gif

 

I'm not sure, but I think the onboard controller takes care of everything.

 

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    That comparison doesn't prove anything.  It looks like they don't know anything at all about things like the Windows Prefetcher (what prefetcher, you say?), and I find their test to be very flawed.  Of course system performance will degrade.  Windows has to rebuild its Prefetcher cache (the data in there is all wrong after a thorough defrag).  And why does their system take ONE HUNDERED AND SEVENTY TWO seconds to boot?!!!  My slowest computer here boots Windows (I'm specifically excluding the BIOS here) in <45 seconds and the fastest one in about 20 seconds!  They range in age from 4–8 years old, and all of them use HDDs.  Although, I've defragmented them all with an experimental defragmenter that I wrote...maybe that's the catch...

    "What defragmenter to use" is a question that I've been asked so many times that I'm planning to run a test soon.  Actually, I want to see how my defragmenter measure up against the competition...biggrin.gif  I will be using a slow computer (2.4 GHz Pentium 4) with an old, clunky HDD.  This will improve the time resolution (i.e. the more slowness that comes from the computer and HDD will ensure that the amount of error introduced by my inaccuracy with a stopwatch will be nil).  I will be measuring things like "how long does it take for program "Xxxx" to be ready after it's launched?"  Perhaps we'll all learn something! thumb.gif
 

 

The article was written on June 5th, 2008.


Edited by TwoCables - 5/15/13 at 10:36am
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    That comparison doesn't prove anything.  It looks like they don't know anything at all about things like the Windows Prefetcher (what prefetcher, you say?), and I find their test to be very flawed.  Of course system performance will degrade.  Windows has to rebuild its Prefetcher cache (the data in there is all wrong after a thorough defrag).  And why does their system take ONE HUNDERED AND SEVENTY TWO seconds to boot?!!!  My slowest computer here boots Windows (I'm specifically excluding the BIOS here) in <45 seconds and the fastest one in about 20 seconds!  They range in age from 4–8 years old, and all of them use HDDs.  Although, I've defragmented them all with an experimental defragmenter that I wrote...maybe that's the catch...

    "What defragmenter to use" is a question that I've been asked so many times that I'm planning to run a test soon.  Actually, I want to see how my defragmenter measure up against the competition...biggrin.gif  I will be using a slow computer (2.4 GHz Pentium 4) with an old, clunky HDD.  This will improve the time resolution (i.e. the more slowness that comes from the computer and HDD will ensure that the amount of error introduced by my inaccuracy with a stopwatch will be nil).  I will be measuring things like "how long does it take for program "Xxxx" to be ready after it's launched?"  Perhaps we'll all learn something! thumb.gif
 
Think about it though.... can you demostrate a scenario when defragmentation yields notice performance gains for consumer workloads?
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When ever i mouse over to any of those colored boxes on the bottom right of the table.

Yeah i did use Defrag and Optimize, and enable move system files to the fastest part of the disk on the Algorithms settings.

Running a last and final pass now, since i just installed Windows updates and moved some stuff.

EDIT: That table is before a new analyze..
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This is the very first time I've ever seen anyone say this here on OCN. Where did you learn that Windows 7 doesn't need defragging?
This.

He has been misinformed... Either that or the tool just makes stuff up to display.
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Also what exactly does optimize do?
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Also what exactly does optimize do?

 

It moves files and programs to the fastest part of the disk.

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Thanks TwoCables for the suggestion of Auslogics Disk Defrag.

I have always been one of them people who think that all Defrag Software do the same thing, and was simply happy with windows version Gonna give this a try though.

Aside from that, Anyone know how to disable Windows 7 Defrag from scanning automatically? I have the "Turn on Schedule" option turned off, yet I go back into the defrag system and it shows "Last Run" then a recent Date/Time.
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How in the heck do I put a image on mobile?!

I just disable a setting on Norton 360 on defragmenting. Least I hope it did disable.

When I fire up the one from windows it tells me "Disk defragmenter was scheduled using another program"
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