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I literally put them in last night (the 690s). I played 3 hours straight till my eyes were burning and went to bed. Both BF3 and BLOPS2. I can't tell you how happy I was because I was really nervous about investing so much again (I basically decided to purchase based off the results of PCPER and the other reviewers agreeing to the data displayed.)

It felt like I went from 30 fps to 120+ fps on a 120Hz monitor. I was so much easier on my eyes / concentration. SLI scaling was so much better in BF3 than BLOPS2 of course but there wasn't a drop of microstutter that I could perceive. There were hiccups, frames jumped, but it was nothing compared to my gaming experience for the last two years. I am so excited to actually go home and play Skyrim essentially for the first time.

Raging, you might want to help the members complaining about BF3 poor coding in this thread . . .

http://www.overclock.net/t/1387274/pcper-frame-rating-high-end-gpus-benchmarked-at-4k-resolutions/210#post_19900785

same here . .

http://www.overclock.net/t/1384998/nv-nvidia-320-00-beta-drivers/150

what driver are you using for BF3?

I did, I am on the WHQL 314. Like I said, I would prefer higher GPU usage but its fairly decent and I spent the majority of the time 90~150 fps.
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I think the said truth is this is a molehill that a few people are trying to make into a mountain. Of PC gamers the percentage that are actually effected by this issue are fairly small. Even more so when you realize that those using Crossfire do not all universally see this issue. Not that is not to say that AMD should not fix it but the issues has been beaten into the ground and is now being considered an issue that effects all when that is worse than not true, it is in fact an outright lie.

First the issue in question is pretty much limited to crossfire. In fact using the same testing methodology used a hard look at the data shows in single card scenarios using the same metric AMD out performs nVidia. Strange how that fact gets no press.

Further even those using Crossfire do not all universally have this. The stutter effect is very subjective to viewing and so it looks like only about 33% of crossfire users ever noticed an issue. Again this is not commented on and is glossed over.

In the end we have an issue that effectives around 1% of PC gamers and yet this is being treated as some kind of major malfunction. Even worse is hardware sites that are plagued with slow news cycles and lack luster new hardware releases have begun to use journalism that borders on National Enquirer level to create a frenzy of readership with distorting the facts to create the drama.
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Great post mopar thumb.gif
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I tried 6950 CF before I got my 7970 and I have to say it was really bad at the time. The profiles were constantly late or just not working, and I can't say they're up to par even now. I got the cf for eyefinity which was obviously a huge mistake since the stutter issues were obvious in every game I tried. A single 7970 improved fluidity considerably even though the FPS was weaker at times. I wouldn't consider using CF without having a frame cap to even out the output, and that's not really an optimal way of fixing things. Hopefully AMD and Nvidia will now put some resources into fixing the multi-gpu stutters near to single card levels, since they can be terrific value compared to Titan or 690/7990.
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I think the said truth is this is a molehill that a few people are trying to make into a mountain. Of PC gamers the percentage that are actually effected by this issue are fairly small. Even more so when you realize that those using Crossfire do not all universally see this issue. Not that is not to say that MAD should not fix it but the issues has been beaten into the ground and is now being considered an issue that effects all when that is worse than not true, it is in fact an outright lie.

First the issue in question is pretty much limited to crossfire. In fact using the same testing methodology used a hard look at the data shows in single card scenarios using the same metric AMD out performs nVidia. Strange how that fact gets no press.

Further even those using Crossfire do not all universally have this. The stutter effect is very subjective to viewing and so it looks like only about 33% of crossfire users ever noticed an issue. Again this is not commented on and is glossed over.

In the end we have an issue that effectives around 1% of PC gamers and yet this is being treated as some kind of major malfunction. Even worse is hardware sights that are plagued with slow news cycles and lack luster new hardware releases have begun to use journalism that borders on National Enquirer level to create a frenzy of readership with distorting the facts to create the drama.

I feel I can spot even the tiniest variances. I'm quite used to running Vsync with no drops below 60FPS and setups that never went below 80FPS, so I'm used to very smooth experiences. With that being said it seems not every setup has it (not all of mine have) but with the ones that do, it's not a constant 100% thing like people make it out to be.

The setups I've had we're not 'as soon as a 3D application loads it stutters so much the other GPUs are useless, the entire time it's running and until you quit the game'. Which is what people make it out to be. It comes in bursts. They can be as long as few seconds or as short as a single runt and I could always notice it when it happened because on those setups my frame rate never dropped below 80FPS, so the difference was major from perfect motion to bursts of oercieved low frame rates.

This doesn't render AMD multi GPU setups useless by any means. Sure it's annoying and ruins the experience overall but it's not a always on thing. I wouldn't even say its a 50% of the time thing (because with my Devil 13 HD7990 and crossfire HD7970s I didn't much at all if not any) but it is there and is annoying with some setups. Would be interesting to see if every setup has it 100% and to what degree but you can be sure a lot of users have it and have no idea it's there. So it's really hard to guage from user to user what they are experiencing and to what degree. Especially since we all don't have capture cards to show it.
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post #126 of 311
Well, it is just not possible that ppl didn't have the issue, they just didn't see it. AMD didn't use frame metering so it HAD to be there. When you have no metering a bunch of frames overlap leading to many dropped and runt frames. If you understand what PCper is talking about since they had FCAT you have to agree with what I just said. Even input lag is worse w/o metering like the nVidia guy explained with the slides.
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Well, it is just not possible that ppl didn't have the issue, they just didn't see it. AMD didn't use frame metering so it HAD to be there. When you have no metering a bunch of frames overlap leading to many dropped and runt frames. If you understand what PCper is talking about since they had FCAT you have to agree with what I just said. Even input lag is worse w/o metering like the nVidia guy explained with the slides.

Well that's the thing. If everyone does have it, then do some have it worse than others? Because not all my crossfire setups were stuttering messes. And the ones that were, the stuttering wasn't always active. When it was there it was noticeable but also varied in forms of distraction. So I don't think you can speak for everyone in regards to this. We need more evidence. Especially since we don't know when these issues PCPerspective are reporting actually started. What driver revision etc. Nobody has done that test with every driver over the last 3 years and until they do they won't know. They could have always had un perceivable forms of micro stuttering since of course there was no metering, just like fermi but not had perceivable micro stutter issues, until recently like the ones that are currently being reported. They could have only came about since AMDs never settle drivers for example.

The difference between perceivable and non perceivable microstutter is very different. No setup will ever be 100% perfect from what I've seen and it doesn't have to. The variances just need to be low enough they aren't perceivable to the user and in FPS games for example that's a lot higher than other games like an RTS with a stationary camera.

I do understand this but the thing I understand better than you is nobody knows 100% everything about this from all angles, you most certainly do not. So I'm being careful to not speak for everyone, not to speak for history and not to speak about every angle of this. Because nobody knows everything. Not even Nvidia. They said that in the video, they know a lot about it but not everything and thats why they released FCAT. Watching that video didn't suddenly make you an expert so please stop trying to act like one.
    
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post #128 of 311
It's not that complicated at all. Let me try to explain.

There was no frame metering with AMD EVER. So using previous drivers changes nothing.

What ppl thought was micro-stuttering was just under-performing. They would see 60 fps using FRAPS or other program, but in reality they were on 35 fps or so, equal to what 1 GPU could do. And we all know 35 fps feels very 'laggy' compared to 60 fps.

There are times you don't notice it. Why? B/c those games are not GPU-intensive so 1 GPU can pull 50-60 fps off. So even tho FRAPS would show 100 fps (or 60 fps v-sync on) you were getting 60 fps and things looked smooth. That is why some games are indeed smooth with CF. But those games like Crysis that need much GPU power will be very noticeable b/c you are actually playing @ 20-30 fps which is not enough.

To sum it up, if 1 GPU can pull off 50-60 fps, you will see no CF issues.

So, I am not taking frame-time variance into account 'cause I think avg. fps is much more important. Sure, it is frame-variance that causes dropped and runt frames, but above that only 'observed' fps is what really matters.
Edited by Ha-Nocri - 5/11/13 at 1:34am
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I can't believe how some folks have taken it as their right to say what exact percentage of people are noticing the issue and not only that but go as far as telling individuals that they are not seeing what they say they are. Seriously, drop it. No one, not a single soul on this planet has that information or the ability to interpret the observations of another individual. The actual phenomenom has been proven to exist, so the burden is on you to prove (not to suggest, but prove) to which extent it is observable. AFAIK, so far the only try to objectively prove it has been the blind test by Tom's and that showed that 100% of people preferred SLI over CF. Not saying that's the whole truth, but it's infinitely more true than all of these guesstimations combined. rolleyes.gif
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It's not that complicated at all. Let me try to explain.

There was no frame metering with AMD EVER. So using previous drivers changes nothing.

What ppl thought was micro-stuttering was just under-performing. They would see 60 fps using FRAPS or other program, but in reality they were on 35 fps or so, equal to what 1 GPU could do. And we all know 35 fps feels very 'laggy' compared to 60 fps.

There are times you don't notice it. Why? B/c those games are not GPU-intensive so 1 GPU can pull 50-60 fps off. So even tho FRAPS would show 100 fps (or 60 fps v-sync on) you were getting 60 fps and things looked smooth. That is why some games are indeed smooth with CF. But those games like Crysis that need much GPU power will be very noticeable b/c you are actually playing @ 20-30 fps which is not enough.

To sum it up, if 1 GPU can pull off 50-60 fps, you will see no CF issues.

So, I am not taking frame-time variance into account 'cause I think avg. fps is much more important. Sure, it is frame-variance that causes dropped and runt frames, but above that only 'observed' fps is what really matters.

Do you know how to have a discussion? Because I'm not sure you do. All you're doing is attempting to tell me something that has no relevance to what I'm talking about and is just recycled garbage from that video.

How do you know drivers don't effect it? You done tests to prove it? How do you know every setup suffers from the exact same percentage of frame timing variances? How do you know every un metered setup has it at all times? How many un-metered multi GPU setups have you had in the last 2-3 years? I've had six different ones in the last few years since the HD 6000 series and not all of them had perceivable microstutter or any of the rubbish you're referring to. Not to mention your signature rig only has a single GPU. So where does you experience with the HD 7000 and HD 6000 series come from? Because I've owned the HD 6990, HD 6970, HD 7990 Devil 13 and HD 7970 all in 3-4 Way GPU setups across many different driver revisions and not all of them had perceivable microstutter that was an issue and I can spot micro stutter with my single GTX Titan.

Not to mention you're completly wrong about if one GPU can pull off 60 FPS you won't notice it.
    
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