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Remember that AS5 takes 200 Hours to cure before best temps are seen. However personally i think you could do with a different cooler.
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The stock HSF on my stock 2500+ was terrible. It was loud and didn't work well. Definately get something new. Even with the stock HSF, I can't see you getting temps that high. Perhaps the heatsink isn't getting proper contact with the CPU. That would cause the high temps. If your grain of rice was too small a grain of rice, and it didn't spread correctly (didn't cover the CPU), you'll see very high temps. Make sure you spread it so it covers the CPU, but in a very thin layer.
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If I am right in thinking this this is what the surface of the chip would look like
[IMG][/IMG]

So a grain of rice would be far to much for that surface

Socket A cpu's run far hotter anyway although not that hot
I had mine running at about 60c for about a year with no trouble at all
 
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post #14 of 49
60c load is fine, its a little hot, but its not going to hurt a barton, unless you are planning on keeping the chip for 10 years or so. lol

A socket A ship shouldn't run that hot. The HSF is probably not making good contact with the CPU.
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Originally Posted by UberN00B View Post
reseat the HSF, WAYY less AS5, like HALF a grain of rice (i should know, im asian and i eat rice everyday!)

Even with a stock heatsink, you should never have to exteed 50º on stock speeds.

If your looking for a new cooler, Thermaltake's Volcano 12 is a great hsf for the price, a SP-97 / SI-97 would be best, or you could get a big typhoon, but you need to check on the mounting brackets.

* What sensor are you using? bios or a program?
Hi there! I eat rice almost everyday too! It's the Asian Invasion! lol

I can't seem to find the TT Volcano anywhere for a good price that I can actually buy from. I'm looking to get a CM Jet 7, but it will only be compatible with socket 370/462. Is it worth it?

And I'm using Speedfan as well as the BIOS sensor. They are the same temps

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Originally Posted by Cheetos316 View Post
It's possibly due to your HSF and AS5. You should invest in a better cooler, one that is rated for better cooling than the 2400. The old 60mm stock coolers suck. A much better quality heatsink with a decent fan should greatly drop your temps. For applying AS5, I like to squeeze a bit onto the core and then gently spreading with a credit card. This will ensure even proper thickness of the AS5 and you will definnitely know if you hve too little AS5. Also, how are the fans in the case setup? If you somehow have a dead spot in the case of fresh air, that can greatly affect your temps as well.
Thanks for the help! I'll do that right away! Are there any cooler you recommend?

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Originally Posted by ENTERPRISE1701 View Post
Remember that AS5 takes 200 Hours to cure before best temps are seen. However personally i think you could do with a different cooler.
It takes that long? Are there any cooler you recommend? Thanks!

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Originally Posted by CorpussStalker View Post
If I am right in thinking this this is what the surface of the chip would look like
[IMG][/IMG]

So a grain of rice would be far to much for that surface

Socket A cpu's run far hotter anyway although not that hot
I had mine running at about 60c for about a year with no trouble at all
Hmm...my 1800+ ran much cooler, and I think I used the same amount of thermal grease but I'm not sure...so half a grain of rice maybe?

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Originally Posted by Waupli View Post
The stock HSF on my stock 2500+ was terrible. It was loud and didn't work well. Definately get something new. Even with the stock HSF, I can't see you getting temps that high. Perhaps the heatsink isn't getting proper contact with the CPU. That would cause the high temps. If your grain of rice was too small a grain of rice, and it didn't spread correctly (didn't cover the CPU), you'll see very high temps. Make sure you spread it so it covers the CPU, but in a very thin layer.
I'll make sure to do that! Thanks for the help everybody!

edit: I haven't done anything to the CPU yet, but the temps are slightly lower today. It's @ 65C ATM, but that's still too hot (the case is open too)
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Dont know if anyone answered but that new Ebay heatsink, is suck. 41dba, 25cfm, for that budget get this

http://www.directron.com/clp0257.html ....but you look tight on room, and i'm not sure if this thing allows your socket
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that is for k8(s939,754 and am2) and s775, might fit with modifications.

If you're board has mounting holes how about aAsus star ice heatpipe 4in1 cooler ?
    
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Here are some pice. What am I doing wrong?
You should really think about getting a better heatsink if you really want to significantly drop those temps. I recommend the Thermaltake Big Typhoon. I have it on my XP-M 2600 OCed to 2.5ghz and it does a great job keeping the temps in check. Your heatsink is completely aluminum so it isn't as good as absorbing heat from the core as good as copper ones. The finish looks pretty coarse as well so it probably doesn't have the best contact with the core. If you're on a tight budget and can't afford the Big Typhoon, have a look on ebay. You can find used ones on there for cheaper, or look for some Thermalright heatsinks. The made some really nice Socket A heatsinks and they go for pretty cheap now.

Back to your setup, looking at those pics, you have WAY too much AS5 on there. Clean that stuff off and start over. Use a alcohol swab to clean off all of the old stuff and give it a couple minutes to dry off. Then put a tiny tiny dab, the size of a small BB on the center of the core. I prefer the method of using the edge of a credit card to spread the AS5 over the entire core. This ensures that you have a very thin layer and it ensures that you've covered the entire core. Take the credit card and just spread, applying a good amount of downard pressure to ensure a thin layer and just "paint" the whole core with AS5. Scrape off any excess with the card.

Lastly, your airflow doesn't seem great since you don't have a rear exhaust fan. The PSU fan does act as an exhaust fan, but don't only rely on that. You have room for two exhaust fans on your case. You should at least use up one of those.

If you want to see how big a role airflow affects your temps or test if it's possibly something else other than airflow(ie. bad heatsink or heatsink to core interface), take the side panel off and put a regular household fan on the side and keep it blowing straight into the case. You'll probably notice a huge drop in temps. This will show just how important airflow is. Heck, you might even decide to just keep the fan there permanently!
    
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Dont know if anyone answered but that new Ebay heatsink, is suck. 41dba, 25cfm, for that budget get this

http://www.directron.com/clp0257.html ....but you look tight on room, and i'm not sure if this thing allows your socket
I saw reviews of that heatsink and it was getting 32C Idle because of some "new" cooling technology CM used...

thanks for the recommendations though!

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that is for k8(s939,754 and am2) and s775, might fit with modifications.

If you're board has mounting holes how about aAsus star ice heatpipe 4in1 cooler ?
Unfortunantely I don't have mounting holes

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You should really think about getting a better heatsink if you really want to significantly drop those temps. I recommend the Thermaltake Big Typhoon. I have it on my XP-M 2600 OCed to 2.5ghz and it does a great job keeping the temps in check. Your heatsink is completely aluminum so it isn't as good as absorbing heat from the core as good as copper ones. The finish looks pretty coarse as well so it probably doesn't have the best contact with the core. If you're on a tight budget and can't afford the Big Typhoon, have a look on ebay. You can find used ones on there for cheaper, or look for some Thermalright heatsinks. The made some really nice Socket A heatsinks and they go for pretty cheap now.

Back to your setup, looking at those pics, you have WAY too much AS5 on there. Clean that stuff off and start over. Use a alcohol swab to clean off all of the old stuff and give it a couple minutes to dry off. Then put a tiny tiny dab, the size of a small BB on the center of the core. I prefer the method of using the edge of a credit card to spread the AS5 over the entire core. This ensures that you have a very thin layer and it ensures that you've covered the entire core. Take the credit card and just spread, applying a good amount of downard pressure to ensure a thin layer and just "paint" the whole core with AS5. Scrape off any excess with the card.

Lastly, your airflow doesn't seem great since you don't have a rear exhaust fan. The PSU fan does act as an exhaust fan, but don't only rely on that. You have room for two exhaust fans on your case. You should at least use up one of those.

If you want to see how big a role airflow affects your temps or test if it's possibly something else other than airflow(ie. bad heatsink or heatsink to core interface), take the side panel off and put a regular household fan on the side and keep it blowing straight into the case. You'll probably notice a huge drop in temps. This will show just how important airflow is. Heck, you might even decide to just keep the fan there permanently!
Hey, Thanks for the help thus far Isn't the Big Typhoon too big? I think it'd be right up against my RAM and my PS and maybe some capacitators!. I'm currently looking at cooling solutions on Ebay but I'm not finding anything ATM. I have $49 in checking account (just to give you guys an idea on how much I have to spend) that I plan on spending on cooling for my VGA card and my CPU but I'm going over budget...recommendations please? There are so many coolers on the market

I'm going to move the Rosewill fan (red) or the black fan and use that as an exhaust fan, seeing as I'm upgrading cooling anyway. Or I'll buy another, who knows.

Well, I don't know where the household fan is, so I used a 120mm Delta. It's not the loudest, but louder than most of my system parts. 93 CFM! I love it! Too bad I have nowhere to mount it...edit: i just plugged it in. it's louder than all my other fans put together!!!

I just redid the AS5 and took a picture, to make sure that it was done right. Wow, I'm such a n00b. Thank goodness for OCN!

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