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Becuase of the hurdles needed to replace and operating system out of the world atmosphere.

The real question is why they were using Windows in the first place, even for these machines. Considering the role they play Linux would have been just as good if not a better option even back in 1999. (There's also the various UNIX's that they could have used)
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While I find most posts here funny, I have to say windows xp and windows 7 have been very reliable for me.

They're still nowhere near Linux or BSD, afaik. There's a reason Linux has the majority of the server market.
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Windows XP hardly counts as Windows at all. The real question is why they were running an OS that's over a decade old.

Because you're not going to get hacked or anything in Space, and newer code isn't tested as thoroughly as older code. Even for the stuff that these machines do (Controlling scientific testing, etc) there's zero benefit to going to Vista or 7 and a major risk. With Linux, the code is tested and has many eyes looking for bugs (Not just MS and a few other companies that may get access to some of the source code) which makes it inherently more stable.
That said, I imagine the kernel they'll use won't be updated regularly if at all (Bar if/when bugs are actually found) and that it most likely is customized extensively.
    
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Idk about you guys but I'd love to game from the ISS or play against someone aboard the station XD Too bad the latency would be too high not to mention I imagine it wouldn't be safe to rage in a floating environment. Still a fun thought.
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The real question is why they were using Windows in the first place, even for these machines. Considering the role they play Linux would have been just as good if not a better option even back in 1999. (There's also the various UNIX's that they could have used)

Either the application they needed was already available for windows, or the person they had to code it was more familiar with it. I'm guessing they are updating the applications, and favored linux this time.

In any critical application like this, they don't care about the OS. At all. They only care about overall system stability and performance. Properly set up, and only running specific tested applications, windows will be stable. Windows should take more resources then Linux, so the application would have to run that much better on windows to justify it.
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I'm a newbie when it comes to this but....was Linux any good back when they launched that thing into space with Windows on it? I know both Linux and Windows are very old but don't know how they progressed and which was more stable at which point.

NASA can't possibly have spent millions/billions launching something if it wasn't equipped with the most robust and reliable stuff available at the time. I swear some of the technicians working for NASA are basically as smart as Windows/Linux code gurus working for their respective companies, they would have to be!
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Linux seems to be everywhere apart from the last main stay organizations.. who VM windows XP using Linux servers redface.gif
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I wouldnt risk using both linux and windows for critical systems. And it would surprise me if they did. Maybe this is just for the computers they use to proces data or whatever they do in the space station.
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The whole switching to Linux for stability thing is such a novice sounding thing to say. I am surrounded with Windows and Linux environments and neither one is really all that more stable than the other. The OS's are typically fine...if a crash does happen it is from buggy software and you can find that on either environment. Hell I am logged into a Domain Controller right now and it has been up for about seven months non-stop according to the logs.
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that sucks right before a space walk you get an BSOD

That is immensely horrible but so funny. rolleyes.gif
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The whole switching to Linux for stability thing is such a novice sounding thing to say. I am surrounded with Windows and Linux environments and neither one is really all that more stable than the other. The OS's are typically fine...if a crash does happen it is from buggy software and you can find that on either environment. Hell I am logged into a Domain Controller right now and it has been up for about seven months non-stop according to the logs.

Pretty much, but I find Windows better due to software support, more people support Windows and develop for it. So Linux is pretty much dead to me as a computer to do everything until Wine can EFFICIENTLY run most of my games, or just have native ports. x.x But I liked Linux for when I used it, but I'd like to see some builds a bit more user friendly. smile.gif
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Windows XP hardly counts as Windows at all. The real question is why they were running an OS that's over a decade old.

pretty irrelevant. i'm sure that windows 7 is more reliable but still there is a reason that the majority of servers run something besides windows
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