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Hi, guys. smile.gif My info is a bit out of date, so I need help figuring out which platform to use for my new build.

Budget is limited, ~500$, BUT prices where I live are different than those in US, so don't offer newegg promotions or such smile.gif

This is what I have in mind (intel vs amd):

AMD:
CPU: FX-6300 = 155$
Mobo: Asus M5A97 R2 = 125$

Intel:
CPU: Pentium G2130 (Ivy) = 120$
Mobo: ASRock H61M-VG3 = 50$

same for both:
Case: Daotech X9 = 22$
GPU: Sapphire HD 7750 1G D5 = 120$
PSU: Corsair CX430 V2 = 60$
RAM: 2x4Gb HyperX 1600 = 85$

I have HDD, DVD, mouse, keyb and monitor.

Intel totals out to roughly 460$
AMD totals out to 570$.

My specific questions:
1. How does FX-4100 compare to Pentium G2130 in gaming? Does it make any sense that I switch the FX-6300 to 4100 and save money?
2. With last-gen AMD CPUs, are 3+1 and 4+1 power phase mobos still dangerous? Can I safely change the M5A97 R2 with, say, ASRock 960GM-VGS3 FX ? I don't care for extras like USB 3.0.
3. With the listed components (the expensive AMD build), will there be significant difference in gameplay? Can the Pentium handle mild gaming? We're talking UT3, SC2, Crysis 3 (no multiplayer), NFS Shift, a little Skyrim, and TombRaider. I've been playing most of those on my Core2Duo 2.4Ghz laptop, so I suppose the Pentium would blow that away?
4. Can I use FSP Hexa 400 instead of Corsair CX430? The Hexa is cheaper and I've read good reviews for it, but it is not on OCN's recommended list so I don't know...

And give any other advices too, except about the GPU - I've decided on the 7750, and I won't change it smile.gif

Thank you!
Edited by ronnin426850 - 5/11/13 at 1:53am
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post #2 of 26
I wish I could help you with the AMD vs Intel discussion, but i dont know much about either chip other than me googling them and looking at how they stack up from what people post.

I have some recommendations.

If you dont mind mail in rebates you could save a few bucks by going with this;
Corsair CX500w, I would think its the same as the 430w and AC and MIR its $30 which is the same price as the 430w when its onsale.

Hmm I was going to recommend the Samsung 1600 ram since it was dirt cheap, but it seems they discontinued the 4gb sticks.. No idea way..
post #3 of 26
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Originally Posted by JMattes View Post

I wish I could help you with the AMD vs Intel discussion, but i dont know much about either chip other than me googling them and looking at how they stack up from what people post.

I have some recommendations.

If you dont mind mail in rebates you could save a few bucks by going with this;
Corsair CX500w, I would think its the same as the 430w and AC and MIR its $30 which is the same price as the 430w when its onsale.

Hmm I was going to recommend the Samsung 1600 ram since it was dirt cheap, but it seems they discontinued the 4gb sticks.. No idea way..

Thanks, but I live on the other side of the world. Ordering from newegg would be... difficult.. tongue.gif
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post #4 of 26
Oh man and you said that in your post too.. I totally missed that. Sorry
post #5 of 26
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post #6 of 26
Where are you ordering from?
post #7 of 26
Why are you comparing a $280 AMD cpu/mobo combo to a $170 Intel combo (you could get an i3)? It's a pointless question if that's your only options take the AMD. Either will be limited by the 7750 though. You could get the Intel then take the $110 saved from the AMD build and put it towards a better GPU.
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post #8 of 26
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Originally Posted by WR6133 View Post

Why are you comparing a $280 AMD cpu/mobo combo to a $170 Intel combo (you could get an i3)? It's a pointless question if that's your only options take the AMD. Either will be limited by the 7750 though. You could get the Intel then take the $110 saved from the AMD build and put it towards a better GPU.

Because i3 is pointless for gaming, and i5 is too expensive for me. If I save money, I will put it towards an SSD, not GPU.

The quiestion is not pointless if the AMD CPU will be limited by the 7750. This is precisely what I'm asking - How much of a performance difference will I see between 4100, 6300 and G2130, and is it worth the price differnece.
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Originally Posted by StayFrosty View Post

Where are you ordering from?

www.outmax.bg

The site is Not in English so I don't know if you'd manage to find anything,, redface.gif
Edited by ronnin426850 - 5/11/13 at 2:03am
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post #9 of 26
AMD A10-5800K APU
http://outmax.bg/dmz/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=43021

Gigabyte GA-F2A55M-DS2
http://outmax.bg/dmz/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=45743

Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600 HyperX Blu
http://outmax.bg/dmz/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=42927

Corsair CX430
http://outmax.bg/dmz/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=32079

Gigabyte GV-R667D3-2GI
http://outmax.bg/dmz/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=40194

That would be about $474 (716 Bulgarian lev) and would be a better budget gamer.
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1Tb Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1Tb Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 120GB OCZ Agility 3 SSD Cheapo DVDRW 
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CM Hyper 212 EVO Push/Pull Win7 Pro Sidewinder X4 OCZ ZS 650W 
CaseMouse
CM HAF X RAT 5 
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Phenom II 1600T GA990XA-UD3 Palit 550ti Palit 550ti (sli) 
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16GB (4X4) Gskill OCZ Agility 3 120GB Seagate Barracuda 500GB WD Black 500GB 
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post #10 of 26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WR6133 View Post

AMD A10-5800K APU
http://outmax.bg/dmz/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=43021

Gigabyte GA-F2A55M-DS2
http://outmax.bg/dmz/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=45743

Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600 HyperX Blu
http://outmax.bg/dmz/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=42927

Corsair CX430
http://outmax.bg/dmz/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=32079

Gigabyte GV-R667D3-2GI
http://outmax.bg/dmz/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=40194

That would be about $474 (716 Bulgarian lev) and would be a better budget gamer.

I've heard of issues when CF-ing with an APU, are those still valid or it got fixed with drivers?
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Samsung 850 EVO 120  Western Digital 320Gb LiteON DVD-RW CoolerMaster Hyper Z600 
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