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We didnt expect it to be twice as fast. We expected intel to fix the heat issues and expected a solid 10% ipc gain. Both weren't accomplished
Based on a couple of pre-release leaked benchmarks using who knows what BIOSes.  At least wait for a larger sample size before declaring Haswell a failure.
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bad news I guess, still looking on to get my self a six core, probably the 3930k now seeing they havent improved much.

I think an ivy-e 6 core is in my future as well
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I don't understand why anyone would expect a new architecture to provide a 5% or higher improvement over the previous... people said Sandy -> Ivy was barely any difference, this is the same if not less... with a new architecture.

It's yet to be seen what kind of OCs people are hitting on average though. Ivy's average seems to be ~4.6GHz; if these can approach 5GHz on average then at least it was worth releasing for the enthusiast market... (not talking about the OEM market where they just want new model names and appreciate the integrated VRMs and lower power consumption, or the notebook market where lower power consumption translates into higher clock speeds at the same TDP and where IGP performance is crucial; in those markets Haswell is definitely worthwhile)

Its not a completely new architecture, but a highly tweaked and refined Sandy Bridge. Everyone should read the 2012 IDF Aandtech preview of Haswell. There they explain in great detail the improvements Intel made in the pipeline and execution units.
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Although Haswell is labeled as a new micro-architecture, it borrows heavily from those that came before it. Without going into the full details on how CPUs work I feel like we need a bit of a recap to really appreciate the changes Intel made to Haswell.
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[referring to Haswells front-end]...In short, there aren't many major, high-level changes to see here.
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The big changes in Haswell are at the back end of the pipeline, in the execution engine

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Intel's own benchmarks but Haswell at no more than 15% better IPC than SNB and the benchmarks prove just this. Anyone expecting more was just misinformed... If you need better performance then there is the HEDT.
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I'll end up with one sooner or later as I usually upgrade / update on a regular basis.
definitely not going to be selling my IB/SB hardware off just to go Haswell.
something will have to blow or a build for someone first, let it mature some and then reassess.
right now if I was to buy it would have to be maybe an i7-3820 and wait for IB-E or a 3930K and stand pat with that...
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Gahhhhhh screw you Intel. I'm staying with my trusty i7 920 @ 4ghz. Might upgrade the video card only. This is disappointing frown.gif
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Starting to look like a good competitor to AMD's APU graphics.

Can't complain when a CPU 'only' can get you playing most games.
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Gahhhhhh screw you Intel. I'm staying with my trusty i7 920 @ 4ghz. Might upgrade the video card only. This is disappointing frown.gif

If you haven't already optimize the uclk speed. Netted me 3% in cinebench
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If you look at the 4.5Ghz OC page, the fan hit ~2300rpm which is the max speed of the stock Intel cooler. 4.5ghz and 85C on the hottest core seems pretty cool to me.
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If you look at the 4.5Ghz OC page, the fan hit ~2300rpm which is the max speed of the stock Intel cooler. 4.5ghz and 85C on the hottest core seems pretty cool to me.

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That changes my outlook a bit, 4.5 on the stock cooler is impressive. The test settings were in Chinese, so I just skipped over that page.

Can't wait to see what it does with an NH-D14 or something similar.

So, for the 5.1 result, that was with the stock cooler also?

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That changes my outlook a bit, 4.5 on the stock cooler is impressive. The test settings were in Chinese, so I just skipped over that page.

Can't wait to see what it does with an NH-D14 or something similar.

So, for the 5.1 result, that was with the stock cooler also?


Yeah 5.1 on the stock cooler? Then 5.5 should be easy with my water setup. I dont know what to believe now
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