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Hello again OCN-
It's been a while since my last project (MKG-Cosmos II), but I wanted to share my latest project with you all.
I recently revamped a bar-top poker, trivia machine into a mame machine for a client, and while I was getting the latest mame software, I stumbled onto a link to 'Future Pinball' and found some pretty awesome pinball emulator software consisting of Future pinball, Visual pinball, and a frontend program, Hyper-spin.

It's been quite a few years since I have visited video pinball on the pc, and in that time I must say that it has come a long way. After messing with the software side of it for over a week, and finally getting the 3 programs to work/mesh together, I am hooked- It's still not the real deal, but it's getting close and it will only get better! I was so impressed by the tables that I decided that a pinball cabinet build was in order! A word of warning for anyone who wants to check out the software, start with future pinball as it is definitely a lot easier to get working than visual pinball, and also has some sweet graphics (3-d models and such). After getting my feet wet with FP, and reading some forum topics, I dug in and got Visual Pinball and Hyperspin up and running. Not as easy as it should be as there are not very many tutorials showing you what needs to be done to get it to work properly, and the software is a bit finicky/quirky.

So I am looking around and I see that there are video pinball machines readily available for sale on the internet for around $5000.
Seems a bit expensive seeing that I already have the software working and have a bit of experience in the arcade cabinet scene. I also consider myself to be pretty good with my hands and have build cabinets from scratch before, just not any pinball cabinets. But I do have a Williams 'Big Guns' pinball machine, so I can pull some measurements off of that, and I am already familiar with a couple of the pinball supply sites, as I have ordered new rubbers for all the bumpers and such in the past in an effort to renew my real pinball machine.

For me, there is definitely something in the allure of old arcade games and pinball machines, going back to my childhood, plugging countless quarters into these machines while I was growing up. So for me, it's a no-brainer that I should have a video pinball machine next to 'Big Guns', my driving simulator and mame machine.

Enough talking/background.... Lets look at the plans!

Before I could start some plans, I need the dimensions of the screens that will being used. Now there are a couple different ways to go about this. First off, you need a nice screen for the playfield, and I figure the bigger the better, within reason. I want to keep the machine close to real pinball dimensions, and then want the playfield to be mostly all screen. For the back glass, you need a good size screen for the image, and possible a dmd (dot-matrix display) for the score keeping. The problem I see here is that back glass images on pinball machines are almost square (ish). The back glass on my big guns machine is actually taller than it is wide. I decided instead of using a 30" widescreen up top (which really stretches out the original images) and a separate little screen for the dmd, I would use another larger screen rotated 90 degrees (portrait) and just waste some of the screen.

A couple days of craigslisting later, I found a couple 46" lcd 1080p screens for $550 total. After getting them home, I promptly grabbed a screwdriver and took the screens out of their casings, to make them as space-saving as possible. and drew up some drawings.

As I haven't taken the time to learn google scetchup, I use ms paint to draw my plans on some graph-paper images that I downloaded off the net. Quit laughing! rolleyes.gif Anyway, Here are the final drawings that I made. Feel free to use them, just give credit where credit is due, if you do thumb.gif

upper back glass detail


lower front/back detail


lower left side


bottom detail


4'x8' cut sheet detail
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post #2 of 38
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For those of you that may ever need to 'de-lid' a monitor for repair or whatever, it's really quite simple and not much to be worried about. Just be aware that doing so may void any warranty you may have. I bought the screens used to save money so I wasn't concerned about it. Not that I have problems voiding warranties lol.

Here is a Sony Visio 46" 1080p tv that I will be using for the playfield screen. This one actually has some decent speakers that sound good and are loud. I will be using these, thus saving even more money, not having to buy a sound system for the machine.



First thing to do is to pull this thing off. it just slides off-


Next, undo the screws holding on the stand-


After the stand is removed, then I took off the speakers-


Now, remove all the screws along the outer edge of the display...


...and remove the back cover.


next, remove this piece of metal that the stand attached to.


remove the buttons for power/volume/channel/menu. 3 screws and some quick connect wiring.


There is also an optical sensor for the remote and this little led lighted board (bottom middle) that lit up the visio logo on the front of the unit. I unhook the optical sensor, and just move the led-lighted board out of the way.



Here are the disconnected button board and remote optical sensor board. Save everything just in case.


Removing even more brackets. I want this as small as possible.


This sony used a Samsung lcd screen. This is good in my book.


With the screen bezel on the monitor, it measures 26.5"


De-lidded, the monitor comes in at 24 5/8" making my cabinet almost 2" smaller width-wise. May not seem like much, but using these large 46" screens, my cabinet will already be wider than a standard size pinball machine, so I want it as skinny as possible to stay as authentic as possible.


Here are the two screen de-lidded and ready for action thumb.gif

Edited by bob808 - 6/25/13 at 5:20pm
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After drawing up my plans, I went to Home Depot and bought a sheet of nice oak plywood to go with a sheet of some birch plywood that I already had. I took the two sheets of plywood along with my cut sheet to a wood-shop across the parking lot from the granite shop where I work. He has a nice digital bridge saw which made quick work of cutting out all my pieces. One hour later, all my pieces are cut, everything nice and straight and square! I was also able to use his router table for the screen cutout and coin-door cutout. What a time saver that was- normally I would have had to draw lines and hand cut everything with a skill saw, then sand everything true.

I did screw the pooch on one thing that you can see in this picture. My side pieces are much too long. I forgot to cut them to length after cutting the angle, which I soon discovered when assembling the cabinet. Here are the pieces at home in my garage. The bottom piece of the cabinet is on the work table.



squaring up the front piece to the bottom plate. The front piece (and the sides also) covers the edge of the bottom sheet.



I cut a 25" length of 2x2 (measures 1.5"x1.5") to attach the front (coin-door) piece to the bottom so you wont see screw holes from the outside. Here it is screwed to the bottom plate.



clamping the front piece into position before drilling/screwing-



Front attached. Put some 2x2 strips onolg the sides of the base plate, stopping 3/4" short of the end to allow for the back piece to sit on top of the bottom piece.


After cutting the sides to length, I got those attached, again drilling and screwing from the inside so it wont show any screws from the outside. I also cut some more 2x2 for the back and some temporary pieces for the front corners. These front corner pieces will be replaced with metal brackets that hold the legs on later.

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This gonna be crazy. subbed thumb.gif

Cool Mr. One! Thanks for the sub smile.gif

I probably should have mitered these front corners, but I don't see it making that much of a difference in the long run. We'll see.


I put a couple temporary blocks and attached the back panel. Notice that it is 3/4" shorter then the height of the side panels. This is by design. I also position the lower screen bezel (in the wrong spot, by the way, which I find out later)



Here's the lower box all dry fitted up. I will have to take it all back apart and then put it back together with wood glue and screws after I make sure everything is kosher.



Next I start working on the back glass box. Here's the bottom clamped to the back, ready for some drilling/screwing.


Now the top piece attached.


The top juts out 2" further than the bottom.


Then I must have been 'in the zone' because I forgot to take pictures, but next I cut a couple 2x2's and attached these just like I did on the lower box, and then attached the sides. The only thing I changed from my plans is that I eliminated the 'riser block' between the upper back glass box and the lower playfield box. I felt like it would be a lot sturdier, as I was going to have to plane down wood for the riser block, which would have resulted in a weak point.

Anyway, after dry-fitting the top box together, I inserted the front screen bezel and placed the back-glass box on top of the playfield box. She's starting to look like something now thumb.gif


The lower screen bezel is supposed to be on the same plane as the upper screen bezel like shown in the picture above, but to get them to plane out, I had pull the top box forward as you can see here. This is when I discovered that I has installed the lower bezel in the wrong spot (too far forward). Now I will have extra screw holes to fill in with bondo. Not the end of the world, but I was trying to be careful and have a minimum of visible screw holes so it still ticked me off.


Here's a picture of the back of the cabinet.


Here, if you look closely, you can see the extra set of screw holes in the side panel from moving back the lower bezel. Also you may be able to make out the routered out grooves in the tops (inside) of the side panels. The glass will sit in these.


One of the only downsides from using a large rotated screen for the backglass is that it limits the space you have for speakers. Traditionally, a pinball machine has its speakers below the back glass image on either side of the dmd. I designed the top box with just enough room to accommodate the 2" wide speakers that came with the visio tv.

Here's a picture of me drilling out holes for the speakers in the top screen bezel. You can also see that I used a router to knock a 45 degree bevel around the screen cutout to lessen the look of the thickness of the wood around the screen.


After drilling the speaker holes, I finish them off with a jig-saw.

Edited by bob808 - 5/11/13 at 2:14am
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Again, I forgot to snap pictures, but I put in a couple of 2x2 side rails to support the lower monitor, and a couple of wood brackets to hold the top monitor from sliding down to the bottom. Now for a peek at things to come, I put in the screens to see how everything was looking so far.



Using a couple of the existing threaded holes on the side of the monitor, I drilled a couple holes in the sides of the cabinet and put in a couple screws through she sides, into the monitor frame, so I can lift and the monitor will pivot and raise like the hood of a car, allowing access to the inside of the cabinet, where the computer will be. This will allow easy access once the glass is removed.







I ran solid 2x2 rails from the bottom cab to the top cabinet to make it strong. I also ran screws through the lower shelf of the top box into the bottom sides.



Using a 4.5" hole saw on my trusty Makita, I drill holes for fans. Two in the top for exhaust, and two in the lower front for intake.



I will leave you for tonight with this last picture-


I welcome and thank you for your comments and suggestions!
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post #8 of 38
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Thanks bigmac11!
Ok. I spend the last two days trying to figure out some artwork for the sides of the pinball cabinet. I was planning on turning it over to a talented artist friend of mine, but as luck would have it, he's right in the middle of closing on a new house, so he doesn't have time since he has to pack up and move. I don't feel like paying for vinyl graphic wrap so I figure I will paint it myself.

After looking at variations of color and design for many hours, I am feeling a bit indecisive and could use your help! Let me know which design and color scheme you like best! Your opinion will be greatly appreciated! You can vote for your 2 favorites at the top of this thread thumb.gif

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Also, here are a couple different variations of the designs that you can open in paint and come up with your own color scheme if you want to help out!







Help please!
Edited by bob808 - 5/12/13 at 5:26pm
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Bumping for votes on designs/colors
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whoohoo! first vote is in... Thanks! I would +rep you if I knew who you were rolleyes.gif
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