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Maybe it's time for Microsoft to do a 100% from scratch re-write of the next version of "Windows", not just keep using the NT core regardless of if it is Vista, 7, 8, or 8.1 (which is 99.9% all the same and just basically a Service Pack of each other).

Maybe then, with a total re-write, they can do it right and throw away code that is decades old and actually make a non-bloated OS that is better than Linux in ways other than just cornering the market on DirectX support.

Mr. Sulu, set flame shields to max!

Not really going to be Windows now is it?
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I've still got a Dell Inspiron 4100 running Windows 7.

512mb SD Ram and a 1Ghz Pentium-III. Run's fine.

Uh maybe with all of the eye candy off, running a completely stripped theme, and nothing running. Otherwise I call shenanigans. My laptop is a c2d t7200 with 2gb of ddr2, a 7600gt and an ssd. 7 with very very mild eye candy (no transparency, no aero) runs like absolute trash compared to my loaded kde version of fedora and kubuntu. That computer was built in 06.
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Uh maybe with all of the eye candy off, running a completely stripped theme, and nothing running. Otherwise I call shenanigans. My laptop is a c2d t7200 with 2gb of ddr2, a 7600gt and an ssd. 7 with very very mild eye candy (no transparency, no aero) runs like absolute trash compared to my loaded kde version of fedora and kubuntu. That computer was built in 06.

My C2D T6600 with ATI 4570 4GB DDR3 and an old 80GB HDD runs flawlessly, with all eye candy turned on. I regularly have multiple applications open in multiple virtual workspaces (Dexpot similar to Ubuntu workspaces) e.g. Excel, Word, Chrome(with always 6 pinned tabs including google play music playing and tweetdeck) and multiple other tabs. All this on a system that is lower than yours in every respect except RAM and especially in the HDD (yours is an SSD mine is a 5200rpm 80gb drive)
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Uh maybe with all of the eye candy off, running a completely stripped theme, and nothing running. Otherwise I call shenanigans. My laptop is a c2d t7200 with 2gb of ddr2, a 7600gt and an ssd. 7 with very very mild eye candy (no transparency, no aero) runs like absolute trash compared to my loaded kde version of fedora and kubuntu. That computer was built in 06.

My C2D T6600 with ATI 4570 4GB DDR3 and an old 80GB HDD runs flawlessly, with all eye candy turned on. I regularly have multiple applications open in multiple virtual workspaces (Dexpot similar to Ubuntu workspaces) e.g. Excel, Word, Chrome(with always 6 pinned tabs including google play music playing and tweetdeck) and multiple other tabs. All this on a system that is lower than yours in every respect except RAM and especially in the HDD (yours is an SSD mine is a 5200rpm 80gb drive)


That is not quite right, the HD 4570 has hardware acceleration for flash videos, the 7600 GT doesn't. The CPU is more or less the same though. Yours has less cache, but a faster clockspeed and a faster FSB.
 
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That is not quite right, the HD 4570 has hardware acceleration for flash videos, the 7600 GT doesn't. The CPU is more or less the same though. Yours has less cache, but a faster clockspeed and a faster FSB.

I use chromes pepper flash so I only get accelerated rendering but not accelerated decoding.
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That is not quite right, the HD 4570 has hardware acceleration for flash videos, the 7600 GT doesn't. The CPU is more or less the same though. Yours has less cache, but a faster clockspeed and a faster FSB.

I use chromes pepper flash so I only get accelerated rendering but not accelerated decoding.

May I ask why ? Do you have some compatibility problem with the GPU ? Back in 2008 it used to happen with some ATI drivers where you had to disable hardware acceleration (even though it didn't mean the same as now), I don't know about 2009 (the year of your GPU). It was eventually fixed in a subsequent driver (at least in my case, I have a laptop with an HD 2600).
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Why is everyone talking about OSs "feeling snappy"? For what it's worth, KDE on Chakra feels a lot smoother than Win7 to me, but that's rather subjective. The fact is, Windows is just slower than Linux, in actual performance. In every cross-platform software that I've ever run (FaH, Blender/Cycles, etc., even games like Xonotic), Linux out-of-the-box is significantly faster than Windows is. With a custom-compiled kernel on certain CPUs (eg AMD FX), Linux can be twice as fast as Windows. Even Linux in a VM on Windows is faster than Windows is natively (see FaH). And that's not counting the fact that even 'bloated' distros like Ubuntu use a fraction of the RAM and disk space that Windows does, and that Linux's file systems, such as EXT4 and Btrfs, are far faster, safer, and generally better than the relic that is NTFS.
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Anyone with enough knowledge and time can start debugging linux kernel code. Some folks at the linux boards are top level programmers that started messing arround with linux when they were very young, some lucky ones are even making a living out of it. And since anybody can find bugs and improvements there are millions of active "developers" arround the world.

WIndows is a complete different story, closed code. Poor poor windows kernel....all alone crying in a corner with just a handfull of programmers to keep it up to date.

I use Win for gaming, linux for everything else... LOL
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It's all relative. Linus Torvalds has actually complained about bloat in the Linux kernel, in the past. biggrin.gif

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Anyone with enough knowledge and time can start debugging linux kernel code. Some folks at the linux boards are top level programmers that started messing arround with linux when they were very young, some lucky ones are even making a living out of it. And since anybody can find bugs and improvements there are millions of active "developers" arround the world.

WIndows is a complete different story, closed code. Poor poor windows kernel....all alone crying in a corner with just a handfull of programmers to keep it up to date.

I use Win for gaming, linux for everything else... LOL

I use Linux to compile Android, I use Win for everything else.
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