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He suggesting you use a usb stick to use the readyboost feature in usb 3 port if you have one start up files meaning programs that start when you log into windows along with maybe program background serivices etc
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    I don't know why anyone would want to use ReadyBoost when the system drive is an SSD.

    geoxile, are you using (or have you used) Windows file sharing (sharing folders to other computers on a local network) by any chance?  Perhaps try disabling your network adapter(s) and unplugging all USB devices except for your keyboard and mouse and see if that changes anything.
 
Edited by Techie007 - 6/3/13 at 6:29am
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Originally Posted by geoxile View Post

What are quick start-up files?

I don't have a pagefile for the SSD but I do have one on my HDD; it's set to system managed. Not sure how to turn on ReadyBoost with my SSD, I don't see the feature under properties.
Okay, yeah... system managed files can be good to a certain point but they do have a nasty tendency to not allow as much virtual disk capacity (which in-turn creates more processing tasks for the c/gpu to the disk structure itself). That can slow the start-up time of your computer.
Now, let's focus on the quick start-up files and what they do because "they're quite important on how a computer ui (user-interface) comes up and if the content is not present... the computer reads the rest of the content (one example is that annoying sleep glitch) where the ui/bios is sleeping (even while the laptop is on) and the content takes years to load in order to finish powering on." If a particular thread, handle, whatever is not in place... say ASUS InstantOn. Let's pretend my system doesn't have a file (composed of threads/handles) for ASUS InstantOn. Well, without it, the data/information is loading instead of the file in order to allow you to log in at the same time. So... the system does what it has to do (start-up's, bios, etc) before showing the logon screen. However, if ASUS InstantOn is present, (just an example) the computer will load the login screen and all those other files (called multi-tasking).
I'll leave it at that but actually... in response to the readyboost comment. It's wonderful if you have a main jump device that's fast. The other readyboost files that are unused/enabled become additional Disk usage area which can also allow additional processors/etc to tackle specific types of code.

An added note:
I'm not 100% on this but you could try resetting the entire windows 8 operating system which can be done now without a disk. However, I strongly advise you backup everything before doing this. Yet, only transfer only those files you want or you could reinstall them if you've downloaded content already. This won't solve your problem entirely but I know that it could (not saying this will happen) restore those superfetch/etc files so you do have readyboost (just incase you want it). However, if it doesn't come-up... you may need to have superfetch/etc reinstalled/moved over/whatever you gotta do in order to get the applications available once again.
Edited by Dr3am - 6/3/13 at 1:02pm
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    I don't know why anyone would want to use ReadyBoost when the system drive is an SSD.

    geoxile, are you using (or have you used) Windows file sharing (sharing folders to other computers on a local network) by any chance?  Perhaps try disabling your network adapter(s) and unplugging all USB devices except for your keyboard and mouse and see if that changes anything.
 

Filesharing has been off. I'll try unplugging the USB devices and see what happens. I don't think I've changed any of the devices since before this problem started occurring.
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Okay, yeah... system managed files can be good to a certain point but they do have a nasty tendency to not allow as much virtual disk capacity (which in-turn creates more processing tasks for the c/gpu to the disk structure itself). That can slow the start-up time of your computer.
Now, let's focus on the quick start-up files and what they do because "they're quite important on how a computer ui (user-interface) comes up and if the content is not present... the computer reads the rest of the content (one example is that annoying sleep glitch) where the ui/bios is sleeping (even while the laptop is on) and the content takes years to load in order to finish powering on." If a particular thread, handle, whatever is not in place... say ASUS InstantOn. Let's pretend my system doesn't have a file (composed of threads/handles) for ASUS InstantOn. Well, without it, the data/information is loading instead of the file in order to allow you to log in at the same time. So... the system does what it has to do (start-up's, bios, etc) before showing the logon screen. However, if ASUS InstantOn is present, (just an example) the computer will load the login screen and all those other files (called multi-tasking).
I'll leave it at that but actually... in response to the readyboost comment. It's wonderful if you have a main jump device that's fast. The other readyboost files that are unused/enabled become additional Disk usage area which can also allow additional processors/etc to tackle specific types of code.

An added note:
I'm not 100% on this but you could try resetting the entire windows 8 operating system which can be done now without a disk. However, I strongly advise you backup everything before doing this. Yet, only transfer only those files you want or you could reinstall them if you've downloaded content already. This won't solve your problem entirely but I know that it could (not saying this will happen) restore those superfetch/etc files so you do have readyboost (just incase you want it). However, if it doesn't come-up... you may need to have superfetch/etc reinstalled/moved over/whatever you gotta do in order to get the applications available once again.

I deleted the prefetch files as per Techie's suggestion on the first page. And as far as a quick-start feature like ASUS instantOn, I'm certain I don't have anything like that enabled. I could reset the OS but it would be a bigger hassle than I think this problem is worth, at least for the moment. If things get worse I'll have no choice but to reset it though.
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Quote:
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Filesharing has been off. I'll try unplugging the USB devices and see what happens. I don't think I've changed any of the devices since before this problem started occurring.
I deleted the prefetch files as per Techie's suggestion on the first page. And as far as a quick-start feature like ASUS instantOn, I'm certain I don't have anything like that enabled. I could reset the OS but it would be a bigger hassle than I think this problem is worth, at least for the moment. If things get worse I'll have no choice but to reset it though.
Anyhow, if you find a friend with a windows 8 laptop. I suggest asking for their permission to access their C: drive and find the instant(Fast) (whatever files/etc) and remember where they were at. Copy it, add it to your configuration (remember you need every file that makes the file tick) and in the right spot. Then, you should be good to go. Anyhow, increase the amount of virtual memory for paging. It should do a lot of good if the vmservice is enabled under taskmanager services. Especially since the start-up files/etc don't exist atm. It should help but also I should add that virtual memory is a smidge slower than RAM but unlike RAM, vm can process data (via multi-tasking) instead of the main (and only one) disk communicating with the brains in order to get all those tasks done.
Another thing, I don't know if you're using linux/unix alterations with windows but maybe boot/fast/etc files are there but they require content permission by the organization/company you're accessing the software from.
Edited by Dr3am - 6/3/13 at 1:32pm
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Bump and contact the main brands (your device is relying on) and get your hands on the software in order to fast-boot, like the instantOn start-up application I was talking about-> (for Asus laptops). They should/may be able to help you obtain that instantOn/etc software if you tell them that you purchased a Windows 7 (name of device or components (like motherboards) and tell them that you've made modifications. You could even say that you're a big fan/user of their parts/devices and that you updated to Windows 8. You could then tell them the problem of the missing applications that weren't available on Windows 7 (but I would put that last part differently).
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