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I'd go for an 212 EVO Push / Pull Confg.


Cheap and efficient.
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With that in mind, i'd already been looking at the Phanteks PH-TC14PE, Noctua NH-D14, Silverstone HE01 and the Silver Arrow SB-E, and am looking for suggestions on which is the best stock and with taking fan upgrades into consideration. Any help is greatly appreciated. If anyone could suggest an excellent TIM that's non-conductive and not excessively priced, that'd be great as well. Thanks in advance.
Would help to know where you are on our big blue marble.

All of the coolers you have listed are very good coolers. TC14PE is arguable the best,but SA SB-E Extreme is the best out of the box. It's TY-143 130cfm 2500rpm fans are what make it exceptional.. That and the fact that in some places right now it's the cheapest to buy. Here in Uk it can be had for £53.99 compared to TC14PE being £69.99

That said if you put TY-143 fan on a TC14PE it will probably be just as good.. maybe better. But to date nobody has ran that test on an all out overclock to see.

I'm running both coolers with TY-143 fans but..SA SB-E on i7 920 and TC14PE on i7 980 but without enough overclock to push then anywhere near their cooling limits.
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for that temps you say you delidded it rolleyes.gif

Nope - not delidded, but going to smile.gif
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Nope - not delidded, but going to smile.gif

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Alright, after flying though a couple of review sites, I've actually removed the Noctua from the line-up entirely. The design itself appears to be inferior to the Silverstone HE01 And SB-E Extreme(being 1-2C hotter with no fans at all), costing more then the HE01 and performing considerably worse(+8.4C), being roughly the same price as the Phanteks(which keeps things ~8.5C cooler) and compared to the SB-E Extreme has even worse performance(+10.5C) on a 3930k @ 4.6GHz. Stock TC14PE is 2C hotter then the SB-Extreme on a 3960k @ 4.5, winding up being 3C Cooler then the SB-Extremes when upgraded with $36 worth of TY-143's.

Current market prices/performance diff from SB-Extreme
Silverstone HE01 - $75/+2.1C
Phanteks TC14PE - $80/+2C
SB-Extreme - $93/0
NH-D14 - $80/+10.5C

Fan Upgrades price/perf diff
TC14PE + 2 TY-143's - $116/-3C
NH-D14 + 2 TY-143's - $116/+2C (i'm completely guessing here, just basing off other data)
HE01 + 2 TY-143's - $111/+1C (another guess; the stock HE01 is the beastly FHP-141(~$25) pushing 171CFM w/ 3.7 mmh20 pressure, hence the minimal difference despite spending $36 on new fans)

Theoretically the upgraded NH-D14 and HE01 are both pricier and hotter then the stock SB-Extreme, ruling them out, leaving the TC14PE costing $23 more for a drop of -3C.

One thing i'm wondering, is that if it's even possible(due to RAM clearance) to, or if someone Has put, a second FHP141 on the Silverstone HE01 and what, if any, temperature difference that made. I have a feeling that it would outperform the SB-Extreme and upgraded TC14PE rather handily, being considerably cheaper then the TC14PE and not much more then the standard SB-Extreme.
I ask because it looks like due to where/how the included fan sits, another one attached to the front would sit so long as to prevent you from even using low-profile RAM.

Has anyone slapped 2 FHP-141's in a TC14PE and noted the difference?

As far as thermal compounds go, Arctic MX-3 dropped temps a full 1+C lower then Gelid GC-Extreme according to one Vortez.net test, and is $2 cheaper to boot. Might get that instead.

Also, i've been wondering. Ty-143 has some fantastic CFM. But does anyone have any idea what it's static air pressure rating is in mm h20?
Edited by Garzhad - 5/17/13 at 7:48pm
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CLC: Swiftech H220 or Cooler Master Eisberg 240L
TIM: Gelid GC Extreme

Oh... first I've heard about the Eisberg CLC, looks interesting to me (as does the H220).
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post #17 of 89
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I'd go for an 212 EVO Push / Pull Confg.


Cheap and efficient.
While YMMV, IMO i'd consider the ~15Celsius drop in temp the SB-Extreme provides over the stock EVO to be more then worth the extra money. Bumping the cost of the EVO up with aftermarket fans only narrows that gap much further. Punch for punch the dual-tower design is just vastly more efficient.
post #18 of 89
Garzhad, you buy Noctua coolers for low noise not all out clocks : you're the opposite of the market for those
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I always use a set of sennheiser noise canceling headphones when im at my comp, so noise isn't an issue Whatsoever. I actually find the whirring of fans rather soothing as long as it isn't a high pitched whine.
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You can't compare a 2500RPM fan that sounds like a jet to a 1300RPM fan made for silence. I'd probably replace the fans on the Silver Arrow SB-E extreme with a NF-A15 btw , it's pretty much the same width (154mm vs the NH-U14S' 150mm).
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Garzhad, you buy Noctua coolers for low noise not all out clocks : you're the opposite of the market for those
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You can't compare a 2500RPM fan that sounds like a jet to a 1300RPM fan made for silence. I'd probably replace the fans on the Silver Arrow SB-E extreme with a NF-A15 btw , it's pretty much the same width (154mm vs the NH-U14S' 150mm).

It'll only sound like a 'jet engine' when it's running full bore which, with fan controllers, isn't going to happen unless things get hot enough to need it, in which case, you'll want it, if only to keep things from frying. An extra 10C of cooling headroom when necessary isn't something easily passed up, esp when running at the same speeds they probably arn't That far apart in terms of noise/cooling.
Also, oddly enough, the TY-143's can run at a higher RPM at the same DBA level compared to stock Phantek fans, getting 4C better cooling without being Any louder when running at 1600RPM's. Hmm.

My aging soon to be replaced PC is in an Antec 900 with 4 of their 79CFM, 30DBa fans running full bore in addition to the top fan, and I don't find that particularly noisy at all.

Anyway. The earlier observations were in regards to the effectiveness of the heat sink itself, in which it lags behind the others when running passive(though still being one Heck of a heatsink), meaning even with identical fans(be they made for silence or cooling), the others would perform better.

Regardless, for me now it's down to either the SB-Extreme or the Phanteks. Ugh. Tough decision, for me. Considering the case is going to be black/red, red led's ect. the TY-143 fans go better, but the black Phantek heatsink goes better then the metallic SB one. Have to justify to myself spending an extra $23 just for looks and 3C cooler temp XD

Though, i'm still interested in if/how a HE01 with dual FHP-141 fans performs. Higher CFM and marginally quieter then the TY-143's. Would not mind the $7 extra over the SB-E if it made it 2-3+C cooler than it.
Edited by Garzhad - 5/17/13 at 9:28pm
post #20 of 89
@ Garzhad
Have ran both TC14PE w/2x TY-143 and SA SB-E Extreme on i7 980 and found no significant difference. Idle 23-26c@700rpm and 100% load 44-49c@1050rpm; ambient 22c. Adding or removing 1 fan gave a 1c change. There may well be a difference if CPU was overclocked.

I have to wonder how the NH-D14 was 10c warmer. Reviews I've seen show it being only a couple degrees warmer with same fans. Not doubting what you found. Would love to see the reviews and review the data you found. Not just for NH-D14 but other links too please. Especially interested in data on TC14PE w/ TY-143 thumb.gif

You have probably seen it. ehume did some testing on NH-D14 including San Ace 99cfm/6.6mm h2o fans with 8.2c better cooling than stock. (similar to SA SB-E stock to TY-143 fan)
http://www.overclock.net/t/1058005/secrets-of-the-d14-ch-3-in-and-out-games

Another you've probably seen;
Silver Arrow SB-E / SA SB-E Extreme / H100
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6xrsuPwDbo
jump in to 3:40 for results

i7 3820 @4.75GHz
Temperature is delta.

H100 . . . . . . . . 41c 2500rpm. . . . . . . . 55dBA 2
SA SB-E . . . . . . 42c 1100rpm & 1300rpm 38dBA TY-150 & TY-141
SA SB-E Extreme 34c 2500rpm. . . . . . . . 56dBA 2x TY-143
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