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The info has come from the Heatsink guide in PontiacGTX's signature: http://www.overclock.net/t/1386288/guide-budget-mid-range-and-high-end-heatsink-choice-price-performance As well as numerous tests from vortez.net: Overclocked: http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/noctua_nh_u14s_review,9.html Passive: http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/noctua_nh_u14s_review,10.html

"Have ran both TC14PE w/2x TY-143 and SA SB-E Extreme on i7 980 and found no significant difference."
If not OC'ed, i'm not really surprised by that. The difference really should only be 1-2C, if anything, caused by one or the others heatsink design being 'better'. Vortez' 'passive' performance graph is designed to showcase how effectively the heatsink alone is at dispersing heat. From what i've seen, most high-end dual-tower designs are within a few C of eachother, which is reinforced by the tests where identical fans were used to the same general effect: all the high-end coolers performing within a few C of eachother.
The main difference is between a dual tower and a single tower air cooler. Even with identical fans in push-pull, all tests indicate that dual towers in general will run 10C cooler then singles simply due to their design.

"There may well be a difference if CPU was overclocked."
Generally the only time you Really notice Any difference is when something is massively OC'ed, thats typically the only time a given fan/heatsink combos efficiency at shedding heat Really comes into play.
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I'm OC at 4.5 GHz but IBT test I found it by how hot it was ah cool, I'm using the SB-Ex sink mad.gif
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I was referring to your previous post:
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Originally Posted by Garzhad View Post

Current market prices/performance diff from SB-Extreme
Silverstone HE01 - $75/+2.1C
Phanteks TC14PE - $80/+2C
SB-Extreme - $93/0
NH-D14 - $80/+10.5C
I have never seen a review with NH-D14 being 10.5c hotter than the others with similar fans.
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@doyll

The info has come from the Heatsink guide in PontiacGTX's signature: http://www.overclock.net/t/1386288/guide-budget-mid-range-and-high-end-heatsink-choice-price-performance
Way too may pages and links to open for me to try finding source of data you refer to, sorry.
As well as numerous tests from vortez.net: Overclocked: http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/noctua_nh_u14s_review,9.html Passive: http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/noctua_nh_u14s_review,10.html
That's comparing SA SB-E Extreme w/TY-143 fans to stock NH-D14 fans. Not a fair comparison


"Have ran both TC14PE w/2x TY-143 and SA SB-E Extreme on i7 980 and found no significant difference."
If not OC'ed, i'm not really surprised by that.
Exactly
The difference really should only be 1-2C, if anything, caused by one or the others heatsink design being 'better'. Vortez' 'passive' performance graph is designed to showcase how effectively the heatsink alone is at dispersing heat.
But only really applicable if you plan to run passive. The minute you apply forced air the cooling characteristics can change dramatically.
to From what i've seen, most high-end dual-tower designs are within a few C of eachother,
Yet you say NH-D14 is +10.5c
which is reinforced by the tests where identical fans were used to the same general effect: all the high-end coolers performing within a few Ca of eachother.
The main difference is between a dual tower and a single tower air cooler.
I said nothing about single towers
Even with identicl fans in push-pull, all tests indicate that dual towers in general will run 10C cooler then singles simply due to their design..

"There may well be a difference if CPU was overclocked."
Generally the only time you Really notice Any difference is when something is massively OC'ed
Exactly.
, thats typically the only time a given fan/heatsink combos efficiency at shedding heat Really comes into play
Exactly. Passive cooling specifications are nice to for a reference but the real test is max heat. .

I was not questioning nor asking for explanation of cooling.
You are new to forum and don't know who is knowledgeable and who isn't.

I have many sources of data including 117w, 175w, 232w, 290w & 345w heat under most popular coolers showing NH-D14, SA SB-E & TC14PE all within 3.5c @ 345w heat.
Edited by doyll - 5/18/13 at 1:18am
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I was referring to your previous post:
I have never seen a review with NH-D14 being 10.5c hotter than others..

It's not he has confused it with the NH-U14S (at least in the 2 external links the long guide linked is too headachey to read through)
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It's not he has confused it with the NH-U14S (at least in the 2 external links the long guide linked is too headachey to read through)
From what I've seen the NH-U14S is is within 1-2c of NH-D14.. some reviews show it being little better, some little cooler.

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From what I've seen the NH-U14S is is within 1-2c of NH-D14.. some reviews show it being little better, some little cooler.

Appears you are in service. Thank you. .thumb.gif

Civvy these days biggrin.gif

http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/noctua_nh_u14s_review,9.html your right that link shows the D14 being 1 degree cooler than the U14s both around 10 degrees hotter than SB-E (which seems off I would question their method).
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Civvy these days biggrin.gif

http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/noctua_nh_u14s_review,9.html your right that link shows the D14 being 1 degree cooler than the U14s both around 10 degrees hotter than SB-E (which seems off I would question their method).
That data is accurate but of course the SA SB-E Extreme has 2500rpm 130cfm fans not the normal 1300rpm 74cfm fans SA SB-E has... or for that matter most other coolers have. Only the HE-01 has similar high cfm fan (2000rpm 171cfm spec.). How accurate the specs are is also open to debate. biggrin.gif

Edit: Put similar high flow fans on any of the top coolers and you will most likely get similar temps.
Edited by doyll - 5/18/13 at 1:46am
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I was referring to your previous post:
I have never seen a review with NH-D14 being 10.5c hotter than the others with similar fans.
I was not questioning nor asking for explanation of cooling.
You are new to forum and don't know who is knowledgeable and who isn't.

I have many sources of data including 117w, 175w, 232w, 290w & 345w heat under most popular coolers showing NH-D14, SA SB-E & TC14PE all within 3.5c @ 345w heat.

Heh, you didn't quite read my post all the way. The 10.5C figure was for the stock vs stock fans(shown in that graph), which you and I both know the SB-Extreme has much cooler stock fans then the NH-D14. Using similar fans, it should be only 1-2C hotter or so(if that), as I mentioned later on in the post. Just a tiny misunderstanding there biggrin.gif

I've guessed the NH-D14 being around 1-2C hotter based on the passive cooling difference of 1-2C as well as other tests that showed the NH-D14 running 2C hotter then the Phanteks when both are using NF-P14's.

On another note, anyone have experience with Akasa, BitFenix, Cooljag ect. case fans? I havent seen them anywhere else, but they have offerings on FrozenCPU that appear to rival TY-143's performance while having high pressure and/or lower noise. Also, after having heard what the Delta 241CFM fans sound like, i've realized I probably won't be able to stand a fan higher then 45DBa or so tongue.gif

This one has a nice pressure, low 30DBa and pushes nearly as much air as a TY-143: http://goo.gl/6lRnW
This 32mm width ones about as noisy as a TY-143 but has a crazy air pressure of 6 mmH20 http://goo.gl/K0G75
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It's not he has confused it with the NH-U14S (at least in the 2 external links the long guide linked is too headachey to read through)
Nope. While the review Is for the U14S, they include the D14's performance in the results graph as a comparison. They include results from all previous heatsink reviews to give you a general idea of the newly reviewed items performance in comparison to the others, the U14S is simply their latest review and thus has the largest included data set for comparison, the D14's review is back further.
Edited by Garzhad - 5/18/13 at 8:32am
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That data is accurate but of course the SA SB-E Extreme has 2500rpm 130cfm fans not the normal 1300rpm 74cfm fans SA SB-E has... or for that matter most other coolers have. Only the HE-01 has similar high cfm fan (2000rpm 171cfm spec.). How accurate the specs are is also open to debate. biggrin.gif

Edit: Put similar high flow fans on any of the top coolers and you will most likely get similar temps.

Accuracy is always suspect, yeah. All too easy for a manufacturer to fib a little on specs in order to snag a few unsuspecting folks. I do feel that the HE-01's fan specs are correct, I see no other way they could match the TC14PE's dual-fans and come so close to the SB-Extreme without it having the listed 171CFM.
I did find it interesting that running the Ty-143's @ 1600RPM's has nearly the same performance(1-2C) as it does at 2500RPM's and is ~10DBa quieter. Not bad.
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