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No idea what that means.
That's an old graph. IFX-14 first came out in April 2007, Noctua NH-D14 November 2009, Cogage Arrow in April 2010, Silver Arrow a few months later.
your statement about 345w TDP is false
I suggest you know what you are talking about before you make such rash statements. I stand corrected, I made an error in subtraction. It's actually 3.7c
Silver Arrow SB-E 26.9c @ 345.1w
PH-TC14PE 27.4c @ 345.1w
NH-D14 30.6c @ 345w

30.6 - 26.9 = 3.7c
The link to data verifying the 3.5c 3.7c is 10 posts back

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your statement about 345w TDP is false

If you make bold statements all the time, why dont you give actual arguments?
Probably because he doesn't know how to. biggrin.gif
post #42 of 89
I'd have to agree with Doyl. Based on my reading it seems that all dual tower coolers are within each other.

If I had a chance to do over again, it seems that Phanteks or Silver Arrow are a tad better but not by 10C. That's sheer ridiculous, 10C?! That's a huge difference. My research didn't show anything of that sort. I'd lump them in the same tier and the same cooling, I'd just pick phanteks or silver arrow because they are supposed to be a tad better.
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my h100i can push my 3570k to 5ghz without any problems
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Just pick up any cooler you (OP) already mentioned yourself smile.gif

It's only like 5°C difference or so between them... (yes for that 1 time event you're going to push it as hard you can, those 5°C will matter... But real-life you put it a few notches lower anyways ... resulting in lower temps)

All your coolers are great, I think the thing needed to know is:

Does it fit your case? (the height of the cooler with fans)

Does it block your graphics card? (use a mobo with the first slot beeing a PCI-e 1x and second slot a 16x

RAM heatsinks can be an issue (I've got vengeance and pull of the heatsink very easy wink.gif) --> they have low profile now, but not when I bought mine years ago tongue.gif

And for TIM, use the stock that came with the cooler you choose...


I know ALL bits help, but in the end...

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all rounder the Noctua's - decent cooling and fans and don't care about a silly couple of degrees - noise is my priority biggrin.gif

So much emphasis on temps when it hardly makes a difference with normal use. If my system ran 10 degrees hotter and I couldn't hear my system then that's what I would choose thumb.gif
post #46 of 89
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I'd have to agree with Doyl. Based on my reading it seems that all dual tower coolers are within each other.

If I had a chance to do over again, it seems that Phanteks or Silver Arrow are a tad better but not by 10C. That's sheer ridiculous, 10C?! That's a huge difference. My research didn't show anything of that sort. I'd lump them in the same tier and the same cooling, I'd just pick phanteks or silver arrow because they are supposed to be a tad better.

Silver Arrow SB-E has TY-141 (1300rpm) & TY-150 (1200rpm) fans
Silver Arrow SB-E Extreme has TY-143 (2500rpm) fans with approx 7-8c better cooling than SA SB-E Several people (including tw33k and ehume) have tested big twins with high cfm / rpm fans and had similar results. That's where the 10c comes from. It's misleading because it doesn't state the difference in fans.

"Statistics never lie but liars use statistics are often used to mislead."
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If my system ran 10 degrees hotter and I couldn't hear my system then that's what I would choose thumb.gif

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I've got the first (I guess) series of the Silver Arrow. And It's very silent as well. In fact inaudible to me... (I guess the noise I do hear is from my Antec 1200 case fans (stock ones) )
   
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post #48 of 89
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all rounder the Noctua's - decent cooling and fans and don't care about a silly couple of degrees - noise is my priority biggrin.gif

So much emphasis on temps when it hardly makes a difference with normal use. If my system ran 10 degrees hotter and I couldn't hear my system then that's what I would choose thumb.gif
Indeed.thumb.gif

If you are not overclocking to the max you will have way more cooling than you need. My i7 920@3.55GHz under Silver Arrow SB-E Extreme is 48c@1100rpm. My i7 980 under TC14PE stock or with w/2x TY-143 fans is 46c@1000rpm. Both in 22c room.
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If I had a chance to do over again, it seems that Phanteks or Silver Arrow are a tad better but not by 10C. That's sheer ridiculous, 10C?! That's a huge difference. My research didn't show anything of that sort.

It's not ridiculous at all. The stats under 'Current market prices/performance diff from SB-Extreme' were for the stock Fans/temps of each cooler. The gap closes massively under 'Fan Upgrades price/perf diff' with all coolers using TY-143'. Simply illustrating the kind of difference really high end, performance oriented fans can make.
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Indeed.thumb.gif

If you are not overclocking to the max you will have way more cooling than you need. My i7 920@3.55GHz under Silver Arrow SB-E Extreme is 48c@1100rpm. My i7 980 under TC14PE stock or with w/2x TY-143 fans is 46c@1000rpm. Both in 22c room.

I Am going to be trying to OC the ever-loving crap out of CPU. Hoping between 4.6-5GHz, maybe, we'd have to see, and i'd like to try and keep it below the rated temp of... what was it, 67.4C for the 3570K? Anyway. Room temperature is generally between 21-27C.
While I respect those who choose noise over cooling, that's not My personal concern. Cooling's my priority, noise is a secondary concern, as long as it's not a freakin' Delta i'm fine with a good bit of noise; as I mentioned, I have 4 30DBa fans in my current rig; I hardly notice them, and not at all with my Sennheisers on.
Even so, according to specs the Phanteks is Supposed to be pretty darn silent at stock(~20DBa), and if/when I upgrade them to TY-143's, well, @1600rpm's the noise shouldn't be any higher and the temps are 4C lower. Upping to the TY-143's max rpm only drops the temp another C or so for 20DBa more, supposedly.

As for AsusFreak's questions. Most of the Cases i've been looking at have more then 40mm of headroom over these coolers. I've kept GPU constraints in mind. RAM will always be low profile. Even on high end RAM the use of heatspreaders is questionable, and as RAM speed doesn't really have any appreciable effect on gaming is all about the quantity/stability, I don't intend to mess with them at all, it's just wasted watts and extra heat in the case for no gain.

As far as TIM is concerned... for the most part the stuff that comes with the coolers these days is pretty decent, but if I can drop 2-3 C's for an extra $12 or so, why the heck not. That's nearly as large of a temp decrease as getting better fans and for 1/3 the price at that.
Edited by Garzhad - 5/19/13 at 7:52am
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