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Originally Posted by FlashFir View Post

I'd have to agree with Doyl. Based on my reading it seems that all dual tower coolers are within each other.

If I had a chance to do over again, it seems that Phanteks or Silver Arrow are a tad better but not by 10C. That's sheer ridiculous, 10C?! That's a huge difference. My research didn't show anything of that sort. I'd lump them in the same tier and the same cooling, I'd just pick phanteks or silver arrow because they are supposed to be a tad better.

That's true. Performance wise the Phanteks (using the same fans) is a tad better than the rest, if we look at the vast majority of reviews, but the difference is really neglectable.
The Phanteks does have a bit better mounting and better build quality though, the Silver Arrow on the other hand comes with better fans....

The bequiet Dark Rock Pro 2 is also worth a mention since it comes with the best (silence oriented) stock fans out of all Dual Tower coolers. The next interesting product will be the Noctua D14 successor, since we can be sure that it will not be worse than the original, plus it will most likely come with their new and totally awesome A15/F12 fans...
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post #52 of 89
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Hmmm. According to a poster on here, Odd1, on a Phanteks, two Akasa Vipers actually beat the TY-143's. Interesting, now if only they were on amazon prime for the same price biggrin.gif
They use hydro-dynamic bearings to boot, making them considerably Quieter then the ball bearing TY-143's, according to spec. Not bad.
post #53 of 89
Seems a bit ard to believe since the TY-143 are much higher rpm.

But since you mentioned their fans, you might be interested to check this one out:

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/19443/cpu-aka-18/Akasa_Venom_Medusa_Universal_8-Heatpipe_CPU_Cooler_AK-CC4010HP01_Sockets_LGA_775_1155_1156_1366_2011_AM2_AM3_FM1.html?tl=g40c14s1037

It's brand new, so not a lot of reviews but my educated guess would be that it will perform really similar to the other dual twoer heatsinks. smile.gif
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post #54 of 89
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Originally Posted by Elohim View Post

Seems a bit ard to believe since the TY-143 are much higher rpm.

I think it would have more to do with the air pressure. There's nothing listed on pressure Anywhere for the TY-143's despite their apparent popularity, whereas the Viper sits at 3.12 mmh20, which is top of the class for the 140x25mm fans from what I can tell. Fan blade design can make big differences.
And while definitely intriguing, I can't find any Comparisons with the Medusa on multiple pages of google search. Even so, I can't imagine it doing much better then the top 3 currently in circulation considering the similarities. Wildcard vs tried and true. Eh.
post #55 of 89
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Originally Posted by Garzhad View Post

I think it would have more to do with the air pressure.
Fan blade design can make big differences.

Yeah it obviously makes a difference. But when you have a pretty efficient fan for heatsinks, wich the TY-140 is, and then make it spin ~50% faster than the Viper, all that in an environment where static pressure is not even that important (a heatsink with a relatively wide fin spacing like the Phanteks) then it seems very unlikely to me.
But who knows, i didnt test it myself, im just saying im very skeptical due to my experience smile.gif
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post #56 of 89
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Originally Posted by Elohim View Post

But who knows, i didnt test it myself, im just saying im very skeptical due to my experience smile.gif

Yeah, can't wait for Odd1 to post the actual result graphs. Exact words were at similar RPM's(1600), the Vipers did better then the TY-143's on his Phantek; said nothing about the TY-143's at full bore. But, going by the one temp. graph of a Phantek with TY-143's on a 4.5GHz 3960x, going from 1600-2520rpm only dropped temps by an extra C. Taking that into consideration then, with both at full bore they probably cool about the same, with the Vipers being considerably quieter, likely due to the hydro bearings.

Edit: Up and ordered the black phanteks for $80, got a i5 3570k for $210, free shipping. Was the best value I could find. The new Akasa was interesting, but considering there were no proper tests done yet(unproven) and it looks similar enough to the Phanteks/D14 that it's probably not much better, in addition to costing $15 more(no free shipping on it) Since i'd probably wind up upgrading the fans later on anyway, that's just an extra $15 towards that end XD
Edited by Garzhad - 5/19/13 at 3:22pm
post #57 of 89
NOCTUA SE1366 NH-U12P - using only 1 fan. When using 2 it hardly makes a difference. I placed the other at the front end of my case. Also, because it is in line and so close to the rear fan, it operates as the push fan while the rear acts as the pull.

I reckon most dual heat sinks don't need 2 fans

Now - Ambient temperature = 21

Real Temp = 35

So in total my case has 2 front and one rear fan. 1 on cpu heat sink. - whisper quite.

It really pays to do some experimenting with your case and fans and write down the results. Do you need a side fan? No block it uo!

Noise noise noise - your computer is not going to suffer if it is well in with its thermal range. Think, most of us are using a different heat sink other than the stock one, gaining a huge difference in temps that could be used to battle with noise.

I see so many threads here and other sites all barking about temps how low they want them ( forget OC tests ) and wonder why their computer is noisy. thumb.gif
post #58 of 89
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Originally Posted by MrHuy1979 View Post

Nobody help me mad.gif

You originally posted:
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I'm OC at 4.5 GHz but IBT test I found it by how hot it was ah cool, I'm using the SB-Ex sink mad.gif
Which doesn't make sense. You OC 4.5GHz with IBT and found "it by how hot it was ah cool" .. what does that mean? What temperatures did you get while running IBT?
post #59 of 89
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Originally Posted by ladcrooks View Post


I see so many threads here and other sites all barking about temps how low they want them ( forget OC tests ) and wonder why their computer is noisy. thumb.gif

As mentioned, I don't mind noise that much tongue.gif Adequately cooling a highly overclocked system, now, that is my main concern.
post #60 of 89
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

I suggest you know what you are talking about before you make such rash statements. I stand corrected, I made an error in subtraction. It's actually 3.7c
Silver Arrow SB-E 26.9c @ 345.1w
PH-TC14PE 27.4c @ 345.1w
NH-D14 30.6c @ 345w


all heatsinks must be at the same temperature bcuz they are almost the same in cooling surface area. not big enough for being 3.7ªC cooler using stock fans/ being passive

in real world no heatsinks make a difference of 3ªC being both dual towers bcuz there is a margin of error of 1ªC, amount of TIM used and the variation of ambient temperature

for example the difference between NH D14 and HE01 is 0, they perform the same within 1ªC margin of error, and HE01 has slightly more cooling surface area


NH U12P SE1366 as good as IFX 14 overclocking a i7 920 with a little difference of 5ªC (single tower vs dual) thumb.gif[2 or 3~C margin error from the coolest]

any other thing you say about better temperature by 5ªC+ at 120w(using same fans on all) are only biased benchmarks from Phanteks or Thermalright Fanboys
Edited by PontiacGTX - 5/20/13 at 11:36am
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