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Looking good ^
I'd replace the XFX PSU with the Seasonic X-1250, it's the same unit internally but it's cheaper.
I'd swap out the Kingston SSDs for Crucial M4's but either is good.
Most IMC's on SB-E CPU's will have trouble running 2400MHz memory so just stick with 2133MHz.
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Looking good ^
I'd replace the XFX PSU with the Seasonic X-1250, it's the same unit internally but it's cheaper.
I'd swap out the Kingston SSDs for Crucial M4's but either is good.
Most IMC's on SB-E CPU's will have trouble running 2400MHz memory so just stick with 2133MHz.

The XFX is cheaper than the Seasonic as seen here:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p11250befx ($179.99)
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-x1250 ($211.20)
Also it will look better for his black/silver build as the Seasonic has bronze/brown on the fan grill.

Also, he might upgrade to Ivy Bridge-E, so upgrading to DDR3-2400 isn't a bad idea, especially considering it's cheaper ($139.99) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313325 than the HyperX Beast DDR3-2133 ($155.99) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104371
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The XFX is cheaper than the Seasonic as seen here:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p11250befx ($179.99)
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-x1250 ($211.20)
Also it will look better for his black/silver build as the Seasonic has bronze/brown on the fan grill.

Also, he might upgrade to Ivy Bridge-E, so upgrading to DDR3-2400 isn't a bad idea, especially considering it's cheaper ($139.99) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313325 than the HyperX Beast DDR3-2133 ($155.99) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104371
Wow, NCIX have the XFX PSU for $70 cheaper than Newegg, I always go off Newegg prices so I apologise. If the 2400MHz is cheaper then no reason not to go with it I suppose, if the IMC can't handle it you can always run it at lower speeds.
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Wow, NCIX have the XFX PSU for $70 cheaper than Newegg, I always go off Newegg prices so I apologise. If the 2400MHz is cheaper then no reason not to go with it I suppose, if the IMC can't handle it you can always run it at lower speeds.

Yeah that special price of $100 off $299.99 and $20 rebate ends on May 15, 2013, though so you'd better hurry if you're going to get it. Also, if he upgrades to Ivy Bridge-E, it will be able to handle DDR3-2400. But in the case SB-E and X79-UP4 can't handle DDR3-2400, you could always try to run it at DDR3-2133 at tighter timings.
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UP4
16GB OF WHATEVER 2400 RAM THAT MATCHES SCHEME

There are NO modules faster than DDR-2133 on the QVL on that board. I know people breath fire and blow smoke around here when it comes to RAM speed, but I can tell you from experience that going faster than 1866 or 2133 is going to show almost zero performance improvement on a 3930K platform. And, even those will be a miniscule amount of performance over DDR3-1600. Save yourself some headaches and money, and stick with a quality 1866 or 2133 kit instead of 2400. Make sure you put 4 modules in that board. Avoid 8 unless you really need it, there are plenty of boards and processors that run 4 DIMMS just fine but have OC stability issues with 8 DIMMS.

I'd get one 240/256GB SSD (Samsung 840 Pro) over two smaller 120GB SSD in RAID 0, but that's just a matter of preference on my part. I've had too many RAID 0 volumes go offline due to a single disk failure or timeout to warrant the performance boost, especially with SSDs that are already pushing 525MB/sec read and write and 70K IOPS.

Greg
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There are NO modules faster than DDR-2133 on the QVL on that board. I know people breath fire and blow smoke around here when it comes to RAM speed, but I can tell you from experience that going faster than 1866 or 2133 is going to show almost zero performance improvement on a 3930K platform. And, even those will be a miniscule amount of performance over DDR3-1600. Save yourself some headaches and money, and stick with a quality 1866 or 2133 kit instead of 2400. Make sure you put 4 modules in that board. Avoid 8 unless you really need it, there are plenty of boards and processors that run 4 DIMMS just fine but have OC stability issues with 8 DIMMS.

I'd get one 240/256GB SSD (Samsung 840 Pro) over two smaller 120GB SSD in RAID 0, but that's just a matter of preference on my part. I've had too many RAID 0 volumes go offline due to a single disk failure or timeout to warrant the performance boost, especially with SSDs that are already pushing 525MB/sec read and write and 70K IOPS.

Greg

http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList/Memory/mb_memory_ga-x79-up4.pdf
This is the QVL for this board. Do you see where it says, "Memory modules listed below are for reference only. Due to massive memory models on the market, we can only verify some of them"? Basically, just because it's not on the QVL doesn't mean it won't work. And yes, there are modules faster than DDR3-2133 on the QVL on that board, it will just downgrade to DDR3-2133. And on this page, http://www.gigabyte.us/microsite/315/images/x79-models.html, it says the Gigabyte GA-X79-UP4 can support DDR3-2400 after overclocking. Even if SB-E doesn't, maybe IB-E can. And even if that doesn't get to DDR3-2400, at least it can downgrade to DDR3-2133 at tighter timings. Also, DDR3-2133 is not cheaper than DDR3-2400 right now on Newegg. G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 CL11 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231619) is the same price as the Team Xtreem LV 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400 CL10 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313325). And look at the timings. The higher speed RAM also has tighter timings, which means you could run the DDR3-2400 CL10 at DDR3-2133 CL9. Also, the cheapest CL9 DDR3-1866 RAM on Newegg is only $15 cheaper (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820103038).

TL;DR
Get the Team Xtreem LV DDR3-2400 CL10 because it is the same price as the DDR3-2133 CL11 kits, and even if the board downclocks it to DDR3-2133 after XMP (Before XMP it may be DDR3-1333 or DDR3-1600), you may be able to run it at CL9. After overclocking and Ivy Bridge-E upgrade, you may be able to run it at full CL10 DDR3--2400 according to this page:http://www.gigabyte.us/microsite/315/images/x79-models.html.
post #57 of 64
The ram speeds supported by the X79 platform is heavily dependent on the CPU's Integrated Memory Controller (IMC). Buying the ram at higher speeds will not guarantee your setup can run it, just that if you have a strong IMC, it should be able to run it. DDR3 1866 is more than enough for decent performance with 2133 being the staple for the average OCer. Once you start pushing your ram passed 2133, you start having to add vccio voltage beyond Intel specs (1.10v is Intel max, while many 2133+ require 1.25v).
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Okay guys after talking with my friend this isbehat I'm going with I know its not good but it will do what I need it to:

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=26776867


This will be put in a Cooler Master N600...
post #59 of 64
Save yourself some money and unneeded strain on your memory controller. Instead of getting 4x4Gb Ballistix at $140, go for the 2x8Gb kit of Ballistix of the same specs for $115:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148657

You can also save approx. $70 by going for that P9X79 board in the F/S section and put the $70 towards a higher capacity SSD, or upgrade to 2Tb HDDs.
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