Overclock.net › Forums › Cooling › Water Cooling › Extreme water-cooling project
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Extreme water-cooling project

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
Hello all!

I am new to water cooling. Looking for the best water-cooling solution for my CPU, so that I don't need to upgrade in the near future.

I'm thinking of getting Swiftech Apogee Drive II, but not sure if it is the best performing integrated pump & waterblock out there.

About the rad, I want to use a monster 9*140mm radiator.


Edited by sunny7day - 5/12/13 at 2:17am

Gear mentioned in this thread:

post #2 of 14
can you tell us what is your hardware info case, cpu ? I think is better if you have all independence hardware.
I would suggest you to get a RayStorm cpu block. it will cool way better than Apogee Drive II.
Edited by skyn3t - 5/12/13 at 1:13am
Black Hawk
(25 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4770k - 13 B 666 Asus Maximus VI Formula 1080 SeaHawk EK | K|NGP|N  G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
SAMSUNG 830 128GB raiD 0 rx 360 rx240 rx240 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Ek-Res X3 250mm Swiftech MCP35X2 COUGAR CF-V12HPB Vortex Lamptron FC9 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Bitspower compression fittings koolance CPU 370 Windows 10 Pro Acer XB271HU ‑ 27" 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Quick fire TK EVGA 1300g2 Corsair 800D MoDeD G502 
Mouse PadAudioOtherOther
Rosewill REACT XL Creative Sound Blaster Z Sennheiser HD 555  AKG K267 
Other
M-Audio BX5a 
  hide details  
Reply
Black Hawk
(25 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4770k - 13 B 666 Asus Maximus VI Formula 1080 SeaHawk EK | K|NGP|N  G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
SAMSUNG 830 128GB raiD 0 rx 360 rx240 rx240 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Ek-Res X3 250mm Swiftech MCP35X2 COUGAR CF-V12HPB Vortex Lamptron FC9 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Bitspower compression fittings koolance CPU 370 Windows 10 Pro Acer XB271HU ‑ 27" 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Quick fire TK EVGA 1300g2 Corsair 800D MoDeD G502 
Mouse PadAudioOtherOther
Rosewill REACT XL Creative Sound Blaster Z Sennheiser HD 555  AKG K267 
Other
M-Audio BX5a 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3 of 14
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by skyn3t View Post

can you tell us what is your hardware info case, cpu ? I think is better if you have all independence hardware.
I would suggest you to get a RayStorm cpu block. it will cool way better than Apogee Drive II.

All I want is to run my cpu as close to ambient temp as possible, when heavly overclocked.
post #4 of 14
Thread Starter 
bump
post #5 of 14
Even though a good radiator is important, it will only get you so far.
Even with the best pump, block, rad, ect you will still be limited by simple physical in how the heat dissipates from the cpu.
Reading an article or two you can familiarize yourself with delta t's. Even if you go with monster rads and keep a low delta t, you may find that your cpu isn't anywhere near ambient (though still acceptable).

If you really want an awesome setup you probably won't need more than a 3x120mm rad in push pull. Even 2x120mm will be sufficient for just about every cpu out there under good overclocks.



If you really wanted as close to ambient/ water cooling then you would have to integrate a tec plate.
Its more of a hastle and for 24/7 its over kill imo.
post #6 of 14
Thread Starter 
thank you for your reply.

I also have this concern, that the heat just can't get out of the cpu or not dissipate fast enough. But I have placed the order of the rad already, the one shown above. Yes 9*140mm fans just for the cpu.

So I am looking for the best water block, now I think the Koolance 380I should be the one according to online reviews.

And finally, what kind of pump should I get to handle this monster rad.?
post #7 of 14
I went with a heatkiller 3, but there are many nice ones out there.

As for a pump theres few to choose from. d5 and ddc are two off the top of my head that would probably work. Even though the radiator is huge, it doesn't restrict flow all that much. If you only cooling the cpu, 1 pump should be enough. If you start going vrm/ full mobo blocks + gpu's, then a double config might help you out.
post #8 of 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by sunny7day View Post

thank you for your reply.

I also have this concern, that the heat just can't get out of the cpu or not dissipate fast enough. But I have placed the order of the rad already, the one shown above. Yes 9*140mm fans just for the cpu.

So I am looking for the best water block, now I think the Koolance 380I should be the one according to online reviews.

And finally, what kind of pump should I get to handle this monster rad.?


The XSPC Raystorm, Koolance 380i, and the Heatkiller Rev.3 all have more or less identical performance. According to Stren's 2012 waterblock roundup if your motherboard is mounted horizontally, and the waterblock is mounted at a 90degree angle the Koolance 380i will outperform them by about 2 to 3 degrees Celsius.

So pretty much to pick between the Koolance, Raystorm, and Heatkiller all you want to look at is aesthetics, because all their performance is about 1 degree Celsius away. The only way you will ever achieve ambient temps on a modern CPU at full load is with a peltier plate, however once you get into using peltiers you need to worry about insulation, condensation, etc.

Of course if you have the technical know how you could make something like this:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1092075/drop-in-waterblock-for-the-ivy-sandy-bridge-without-the-tec-headaches/200

But that's a fairly big build. As for your radiator that was just a waste of money tongue.gif You could have EASILY gotten away with 120x2 or 120x3, and if you REALLY wanted MAJOR overkill 120x4.

What you did was just silly, there aren't too many notably good 140mm radiator fans, and the ones that are really good are pretty loud. On a side note, you'll want 18 fans, not 9. You want 9 mounted on the front of the radiator to push the air, and nine mounted on the back to pull the air. They will have problems maintaining airflow if you don't use a push/pull config.
The Laboratory
(11 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-8350 Vishera 8-Core 4.0GHz Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z Radeon R9 290X Generic 1333MHz R.A.M. 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Wester Digital 5400RPM HP CH20L "The Russian Winter" Windows 8 
KeyboardPowerCase
Steel Series Merc Fatal1ty 1000Watt PSU DIY Rig 
  hide details  
Reply
The Laboratory
(11 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-8350 Vishera 8-Core 4.0GHz Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z Radeon R9 290X Generic 1333MHz R.A.M. 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Wester Digital 5400RPM HP CH20L "The Russian Winter" Windows 8 
KeyboardPowerCase
Steel Series Merc Fatal1ty 1000Watt PSU DIY Rig 
  hide details  
Reply
post #9 of 14
the only way you can get near ambient is with a volenti cooler or bong (not the marijuana one).
If you want to make one i'll help you however possible. it also means you can use a submersible pump
post #10 of 14
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?265723-Bundymania-User-Review-Mora-2-Mora-3-Phobya-Xtreme-1080

The MORA pro can easily keep twin 480's and a i7 920 cpu supplied with sub 10C delta water using 9 X 600 RPM fans. It will obviously easily deal with a CPU at lower temps with nice quiet slow speed fans.
If only pushing through the rad and a CPU block any pump should be plenty to keep up a good flow rate.

For CPU blocks it can depend on what socket you are using but all the common top ones are very close
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?285753-CPU-water-blocks-roundup
Kusanagi
(21 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 3570K Asus Sabertooth Z77 EVGA GTX 780 SC Corsair Vengeance Pro CMY16GX3M2A2133C11 16GB 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
Samsung 840 Pro 256GB X2 EK Supremacy Aqua Computer Aquaero 6 Pro Aqua Computer D5 USB 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Aquacomputer MPS 400 flow meter EK-CoolStream PE 360 EK-Coolstream PE 240 Noiseblocker Eloop B12-PS 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
EK Vardar F2 EK-FC Titan Acetal & Nickel EK-RAM Monarch X4 Clean CSQ - Acetal+Nickel EK-D5 X-RES 140 CSQ 
OSMonitorMonitorPower
Win 8.1 Pro 64 bit Samsung S27A750d LG E2290V-SN Silverstone Strider Plus 850W ST85F-P 
Case
Corsair Obsidian 750D 
  hide details  
Reply
Kusanagi
(21 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 3570K Asus Sabertooth Z77 EVGA GTX 780 SC Corsair Vengeance Pro CMY16GX3M2A2133C11 16GB 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
Samsung 840 Pro 256GB X2 EK Supremacy Aqua Computer Aquaero 6 Pro Aqua Computer D5 USB 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Aquacomputer MPS 400 flow meter EK-CoolStream PE 360 EK-Coolstream PE 240 Noiseblocker Eloop B12-PS 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
EK Vardar F2 EK-FC Titan Acetal & Nickel EK-RAM Monarch X4 Clean CSQ - Acetal+Nickel EK-D5 X-RES 140 CSQ 
OSMonitorMonitorPower
Win 8.1 Pro 64 bit Samsung S27A750d LG E2290V-SN Silverstone Strider Plus 850W ST85F-P 
Case
Corsair Obsidian 750D 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Water Cooling

Gear mentioned in this thread:

Overclock.net › Forums › Cooling › Water Cooling › Extreme water-cooling project