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Poll Results: What do you believe is "Maxing" a game?

 
  • 50% (154)
    1080p, 60fps, all Available Settings on Highest with 4-8x AA
  • 4% (13)
    1080p, 60fps, all Available Settings on Highest with 2x AA
  • 7% (22)
    1080p, 60fps, all Available Settings on Highest without AA (Or FXAA/SMAA)
  • 6% (19)
    1080p, 30+ fps, all Available Settings on Highest with 4-8x AA
  • 0% (1)
    1080p, 30+ fps, all Available Settings on Highest with 2x AA
  • 1% (4)
    1080p, 30+ fps, all Available Settings on Highest without AA (Or FXAA/SMAA)
  • 19% (58)
    2560x1600/1440, 60fps, all Available Settings on Highest with/without AA.
  • 0% (2)
    2560x1600/1440, 30+ fps, all Available Settings on Highest with/without AA.
  • 10% (32)
    OTHER
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post #1 of 138
Thread Starter 
What is the meaning of Maxing a Game? Lets set an OCN standard.


Some questions:
  • Difference between actually Maxing a game and "Maxing" it?
  • Vsync, On or Off? Whats your Opinion?
  • Difference between 2, 4x and 8x Antialiasing?
  • Difference between High and Ultra, any difference? (Where Applicable, such as BF3) And is it worth the added performance cost?
  • Difference between other types of Antialiasing such as FXAA, SMAA or MSAA? Which do you prefer?
  • Whats your preferred Framerate? What is the difference between 30 and 60fps? 60 and 120fps?
  • What do you think running a game "perfectly" means?



I got this Idea from Sweclockers, where a guy made a thread such as this, and they set a standard.
Here is what they came up with. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
  • ¤ 1080p Resolution
  • ¤ Highest Possible Settings (Without Mods)
  • ¤ Vsync does not matter.
  • ¤ AA & AF on Highest available.
  • ¤ 60FPS
post #2 of 138
At 1080p I see it as all settings maxed out apart from AA at 4x and being able to maintain an average FPS of about 60 and a minimum FPS above 45.
At 1440p it's the same but with AA at 2x.
There are some exceptions. Some games have supersampling/ubersampling, or whatever the specific game defines it as, which shouldn't count towards maxing the game out. I guess PhysX doesn't count either because that can only be applied to Nvidia cards so it makes it difficult to compare with AMD cards.
Just my view on it, most people have pretty different takes on what maxing is thumb.gif
Edited by twerk - 5/12/13 at 12:58pm
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I've never owned a monitor that's "only" 1080p, since I went straight from high res CRT to high res LCD. Therefore, 1080p seems like a cop-out to me. If you're talking max, I really don't see 1080p as viable. Needs to be "maxed at 1080p". I would say straight up "I run BF3 maxed" should mean at 2560x***
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Why is this even a debate? All available in game settings at maximum, this includes AA, and then you specify the resolution.

Anything set out of game, or using custom settings, is beyond the scope of the debate. Start the game, go to the options, turn everything possible up as far as it goes. That is "maxing a game". This is also what their standard sets.

Getting 60 fps is a little bit less required than it used to be, thanks to the smoothness of some setups... but I don't understand the debate. I don't get how people can think not using aa, even though the option is there, still counts as "maxing the game" out. It is asinine. You can apply that logic to everything: "Oh, well, I don't really feel the need for aa, so I don't have it on... but it is maxed out"...

Or, "Well, I don't feel a need for shadows, so I turned them off, but everything is maxed out still"... See where I am going with that?


How can you call it maximum, if there is something easily available that is higher?

So my vote is other:

Maximum possible settings without modifications, highest possible AA setting the game allows. Third party modifications, including using graphics driver's control panels are excluded. The resolution is then specified, due to not all of us running the same resolution.


IE:

EvE Online running on my pc
Maximum settings (highest graphics settings + game's highest AA setting) @ 5760x1080 running at... 250 to 400 fps. FPS dips in busy systems due to network traffic bogging down the cpu slightly.
Edited by Masta Squidge - 5/12/13 at 1:08pm
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maxing out simply push all settings to maximum and if game runs fluid(60fps with no spikes/drops) i call it maxed out
    
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I've never owned a monitor that's "only" 1080p, since I went straight from high res CRT to high res LCD. Therefore, 1080p seems like a cop-out to me. If you're talking max, I really don't see 1080p as viable. Needs to be "maxed at 1080p". I would say straight up "I run BF3 maxed" should mean at 2560x***
resolution is irrelevant. Max settings, then state the resolution.

The reason being that the settings are always the same between everyone's setups, but resolution can vary wildly. You can call 1080 a copout if you want, but I will take my surround setup over a single higher resolution screen that costs just as much as all three of my non "viable" monitors.

Much more screen space.
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post #7 of 138
Some questions:

Difference between actually Maxing a game and "Maxing" it?
Maxing a game is just setting all in-game menu's options on max. ''Maxing'' the game is using injectors, texture mods, driver tweaks and so forth to make it BETTER then max.

Vsync, On or Off? Whats your Opinion?
VSync off. VSync is totally killing for input lag on FPS's.

Difference between 2, 4x and 8x Antialiasing?
Not much, I prefer to use other forms of AA like AMD's 2x EQAA.

Difference between High and Ultra, any difference? (Where Applicable, such as BF3) And is it worth the added performance cost?
If your a graphics fanatic like I am, every change in gfx quality, no matter how small, is worth it wink.gif

Difference between other types of Antialiasing such as FXAA, SMAA or MSAA? Which do you prefer?
I prefer EQAA / Adaptive SSAA and FXAA combined with an as sharp as possible filter.

Whats your preferred Framerate? What is the difference between 30 and 60fps? 60 and 120fps?
60 FPS for normal shooters, but I always try to get 100FPS average and 60 minimum.

What do you think running a game "perfectly" means?
Running a game perfectly to me is running minimums of 60FPS and averages of 80+ FPS with modded, tweaked and injected max settings.
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post #8 of 138
You said it yourself, that stuff makes it "better than max" and as such does not apply here.

Maximum settings as the game's devs have defined them. Plain and simple. Anything more is over-complicating things, and sets up standards that are unattainable for some people. The "minimum maximum" as it were. The maximum that everyone can easily set, which is always the same for all users, in the interest of consistency.
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Maxed out should refer to everything you can max out using in-game menus. Resolution shouldn't be considered. Usually people say something along the lines of "maxed out @ 2560x1440."

It's silly though when you start getting into custom INI settings that push a game even further. Or get into the territory of downsampling.
post #10 of 138
>Maxing and "Maxing"
There is no difference for me. If you can have every setting at it's highest @ 1080 with "Playable" frames (never dips below 30) then you are maxing it

>Vsync
I prefer to leave it on. You will notice quick changes in frames. If I am running a game at 140fps and it drops to 100 real quick, I'll notice. If I run it at 70fps w/ vsync and the same scene happens, I won't notice it.

>2, 4x, 8x

I prefer to max out AA at 1080p. at 1440p 4x is required for me. At 1600p+ none or maybe 2x would be the standard

>High & ultra
I don't really see a difference.

>Frames
60+ is prefferred, but I'll take anything playable. I don't think I could see a difference between solid 30 and solid 60 (IE no dips from 60 to 30, just 30-30-30 or 60-60-60-etc.)

>Perfection
Means running it without noticing hickups (Like dropping frames, lag, etc.)
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