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post #71 of 138
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Originally Posted by shilka View Post

1440P without AA blows 1080P with AA out of the water

All those that say 1080P with AA you have not seen 1440P
Yet something tells me 1440p with no AA is easier on a card than 4x AA @ 1080p, so there again you run into problems.
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Yet something tells me 1440p with no AA is easier on a card than 4x AA @ 1080p, so there again you run into problems.

This is 1440P EVERYTHING as high as it can go with MAX AA



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post #73 of 138
Thats great, but you said 1440P with NO aa vs 1080p with AA.
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post #74 of 138
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Thats great, but you said 1440P with NO aa vs 1080p with 4x or better AA.

You dont need AA for 1440P you cant see the difference with or without

And i added AA to strees the card/cards as much as i could for my testing

Take the AA off and the numbers gets higher
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post #75 of 138
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Originally Posted by shilka View Post

You dont need AA for 1440P you cant see the difference with or without

And i added AA to strees the card/cards as much as i could for my testing

Take the AA off and the numbers gets higher
Also great. But you are just introducing more complications into this.

Maximum settings, including AA, and then state the resolution. From there, a list of performance for various setups at easy to compare resolutions can be assembled. This is how it has always been done. Even benchmark reviews do this, they run the game at its maximum settings, sometimes with or without AA just for the sake of info, and they do so at various resolutions.

I don't understand why this is so hard to figure out, when the standard has already been in place as long as video cards have been a thing.
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post #76 of 138
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Also great. But you are just introducing more complications into this.

Maximum settings, including AA, and then state the resolution. From there, a list of performance for various setups at easy to compare resolutions can be assembled. This is how it has always been done. Even benchmark reviews do this, they run the game at its maximum settings, sometimes with or without AA just for the sake of info, and they do so at various resolutions.

I don't understand why this is so hard to figure out, when the standard has already been in place as long as video cards have been a thing.

And i did not understand any of that

Everything i did i just told you and it even says the resolution on the photos

Long story short 1440P without or with AA still looks way better then 1080P with AA

There is 80% more pixels in 1440P thats way it looks better
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You are just overcomplicating it. This isn't a matter of what looks better or what should and should not be used, maximum is a very clearly defined term. If you can still raise settings to stress a GPU further, then you are not at maximum.

This includes AA. This is not a debate about the value of aa at a given resolution. You said it yourself, those charts use AA simply to stress the GPU further. Sounds like a pretty clear case of something being used as a benchmark to me.

Maximum, plain and simple, is maximum. This includes AA, because AA has a performance hit, and is an available option in most games. Beyond that, resolution (no matter what it is) is simply a hardware specification.

And my 5760x1080 setup is far more pixels than a single 1440P monitor, yet it still "requires" aa by your definition. You can't just leave out AA just because you think you don't need it personally.
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Isn't the whole point of the phrase "maxed out" meaning just that....all settings to the max? It's no longer "maxed out" if you start dialing options down.
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post #79 of 138
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Isn't the whole point of the phrase "maxed out" meaning just that....all settings to the max? It's no longer "maxed out" if you start dialing options down.
Exactly, people just refuse to accept AA because of personal preference. I am seeing far too much of this "well you don't need it at 1440p blah blah" being thrown around, but that is totally irrelevant. They argue that more pixels is the grounds for it too, but then ignore resolutions like mine which certainly do require AA, yet are still FAR more taxing on the GPU than their precious 1440p single monitor.

The fact that it is an available graphics option automatically dictates a need for it to be included in the maximum settings, if for no other reason than reliable comparisons to any resolution.

This simple fact also means that we can see how the game's engine scales with resolution as well. If we all compare with the same resolution, we have precisely zero means to compare this, and no way for people to see comparison builds to judge the settings they actually use - which means native resolutions only.

This is the first time I have even heard of this debate... In all my years of toying with computers, and playing games on them... and drooling over hardware, never have I seen this a question.

It has always been max possible settings followed by the resolution being ran at. Always.
Edited by Masta Squidge - 5/13/13 at 3:20pm
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post #80 of 138
If your relsition is 1024x800 or whatever that resolution is, and you have all the settings maxed out for it...the settings are maxed out.

Otherwise I can setup 40 monitors with some crazy resolution and say THATS the max. This discussion is pointless and now I added to it. MY life is complete, it's been...maxed out....

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