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Every CPU and GPU configuration has a bottleneck...

It only depends on severity, A10-4600M was not up to the task while A10-5750M will do considerably less bottleneck than its Trinity counterpart. We will see after we get benchmarks involving both of these laptops... thumb.gif

Please read what i stated above for the severity of the bottleneck. The A10-5750M is basically an i3 sandy bridge. Its garbage for gaming. It will hold you down in Frostbite to 30 FPS in large games.


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Please read what i stated above for the severity of the bottleneck. The A10-5750M is basically an i3 sandy bridge. Its garbage for gaming. It will hold you down in Frostbite to 30 FPS in large games.


Look into a sager reseller in denmark. They have reliable pcs.

Sager is reliable except MSi G? line has various features implemented otherwise laptop with these specs would go below 1000$ without features that improve gaming experience as less lag, better sound quality(to locate hostiles), many ports, etc...

You can go cheap ass on some parts and have amazing specs while having bad screen, cooling and other things... For the price it offers in a package, its really too hard to not recommend it. Even Toms Hardware recommended original GX60.
post #13 of 33
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Sager is reliable except MSi G? line has various features implemented otherwise laptop with these specs would go below 1000$ without features that improve gaming experience as less lag, better sound quality(to locate hostiles), many ports, etc...

You can go cheap ass on some parts and have amazing specs while having bad screen, cooling and other things... For the price it offers in a package, its really too hard to not recommend it. Even Toms Hardware recommended original GX60.

The OP hasn't even picked out a Sager for you to compare to yet. And for Toms has a recommend for EVERYTHING. They have 50 dollar increments of video cards they recommend which is basically every card. They are a joke.
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It seems it'll prove a challenge, getting a sager here in Denmark - still browsing tho'.. smile.gif
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http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=6740&review=msi+gx60+gaming+notebook

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2417025,00.asp

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-MSI-GX60-Notebook.86283.0.html

Review of original GX60...

GX70 3BE(Black Edition):
A10-5750M uses Piledriver+ cores so you can expect 10% IPC improvements over Trinity counterpart and it has a boost up to 3.5Ghz so its considerably faster than A10-4600m. Can't wait for reviews... It has 9 cell battery, wow. Its power hungry as hell for sure.
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http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=6740&review=msi+gx60+gaming+notebook

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2417025,00.asp

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-MSI-GX60-Notebook.86283.0.html

Review of original GX60...

GX70 3BE(Black Edition):
A10-5750M uses Piledriver+ cores so you can expect 10% IPC improvements over Trinity counterpart and it has a boost up to 3.5Ghz so its considerably faster than A10-4600m. Can't wait for reviews... It has 9 cell battery, wow. Its power hungry as hell for sure.



http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-MSI-GX60-Notebook.86283.0.html
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Verdict

MSI GX60

All said, we regrettably cannot recommend the GX60 as a gaming machine for the enthusiast (on a budget). As our benchmark course illustrates, the lame AMD CPU affects the performance of the Radeon HD 7970M greatly in some gaming tests
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That's the old gx60 with the older cpu smile.gif
post #18 of 33
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That's the old gx60 with the older cpu smile.gif

The new one is still only 10% faster. Which isn't much.


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Gaming Performance
Fast GPU, lame CPU

When looking at the gaming results, we wonder whether MSI tested the hardware combination thoroughly in advance.

Although the GX60 could sometimes outperform Intel devices equipped with a GeForce GTX 670MX or GTX 675MX, in extreme conditions (1920 x1080, maximum details), the Radeon HD 7970M often dropped to the level of the weaker GeForce GT 650M or GTX 660M in medium settings (1366 x 768, high details). In the worst case, the refresh rate was only just above the processor-integrated Radeon HD 7660G chip.

I would love to buy an 8 core FX CPU if they could fit it in a laptop at that TDP but the A10 is basically a dual core. It only has 2 FPU's. Its nothing compared to an i7 laptop.
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The reviews are still good... I only put to see its not that bad.

Anyway... A10-5750M greatly fixes the situation, most games are GPU intensive so its not that bad as some people are thinking. This all problems will be solved with Kaveri and most likely called A10-6950M. Kaveri will use Steamroller cores, Steamroller will introduce all the fixes involving Bulldozer and Piledriver with radical shrinking that was really off with both BD and PD. Steamroller IPC over BD/PD is over 30% so it will be as Sandy Bridge CPU's or close to Ivy Bridge.

A10-5750 is 10% faster IPC and a bit higher clocks with same power consumption and TDP.

You pay what you get for.

[edit]

I was watching stocks and it must be an ouch for nVidia and Intel, their stocks dropped by 1.5-2.2% and AMD's rose up to 5-6%. I am kinda puzzled...
Edited by vampirr - 5/13/13 at 11:11am
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The reviews are still good... I only put to see its not that bad.

Anyway... A10-5750M greatly fixes the situation, most games are GPU intensive so its not that bad as some people are thinking. This all problems will be solved with Kaveri and most likely called A10-6950M. Kaveri will use Steamroller cores, Steamroller will introduce all the fixes involving Bulldozer and Piledriver with radical shrinking that was really off with both BD and PD. Steamroller IPC over BD/PD is over 30% so it will be as Sandy Bridge CPU's or close to Ivy Bridge.

A10-5750 is 10% faster IPC and a bit higher clocks with same power consumption and TDP.

You pay what you get for.

Speculation. Also Irrelevant in this thread.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834312439

Would be much better if it could be acquired in Denmark.
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