I'm not really sure why you went on this rant, but I'll take the bait
Originally Posted by Belial
No... you are wrong...
How quiet a heatsink is, is 95% about the fans. Furthermore, the NF-P12/P12/F12/F14 are not very quiet - they are good fans, but definitely not great by today's standards.
Uh this is what I said, which is why I wouldn't buy one of those AIOs - need better fans and the pumps are louder than the fans anyway.
For example, the Silver Arrow is basically an identically performing heatsink, however the TY-140's are significantly quieteer than the NF-F14/P14s, so the Silver Arrows sound profile gets much, much quieter on higher fan speeds.
No... you are wrong... the TY-140 is a nice fan at low speeds - better than the NF-P14. However, it is irritating at faster speeds, with rough acoustics, particularly when compared to the NF-P14 (there is no NF-F14 - maybe you're thinking of the new A14 - haven't seen a legit review on that one yet). db are not everything, particularly when you are dealing with quiet fans - they're all quiet at low speeds, the noise character is what matters.
If you use 2 identical fans on all of the top heatsinks, the NH-D14 is second to last only to the Thermaltake Frio Extreme. The Logisys/Assassin outperforms the Nh-D14 both with it's utterly crap stock fans, and destroys it with identical fans. The Phanteks is much quieter with it's stock fans, and both with it's great stock fans and with identical fans, it's much better than the NH-D14.
Only one part of this is relavant to my concerns:
That's nice, but it's apples to apples to everyone else. How much cooling performance can you get per dollar. Besides the 240mm radiators and fat 120s, high end air beats closed loops. But the best closed loops, beat the best air. High end air is only a few degrees behind something like an H100, but the Nh-D14 is actually quiet a few degrees behind something like a Corsair H100i or CM 240L or LQ-320.
That's nice, but it's not to me! How much silence can you get per dollar? See what I did there?
Now, would you rather pay $45 for an Nh-D14, or $55 for an H100? Well, at those prices they are similar values, but H100s are a little harder to find at that price, while Nh-D14s are commonly $45. It's all about value.
I'm really not sure what your intentions are in arguing with me. Why are you telling me to act against my will?
EDIT: Got bored and did some leg work:
Regarding the NF-A14…
Here it is beating the TY-140 in performance and acoustics: http://www.eteknix.com/noctua-nf-a14-uln-nf-a14-flx-and-nf-a15-pwm-fan-reviews/9/
Here it is beating the PH-14TS in performance and acoustics: http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/noctua_140mm_150mm_case_fan_roundup/5.htm
Also check out the new NH-U14s:
Here it is trading blows with the Phanteks with a single fan: http://ht4u.net/reviews/2013/noctua_nh-u14s_cpu-cooler_im_test/index9.php
Something must be wrong with this review - here it is beating the Phanteks and the Silver Arrow with dual fans, trading blows with one: http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/5434/noctua-nh-u14s-cpu-cooler-review/index8.html
/fan boy. well, i'm not actually a fan boy, i prefer noiseblocker
should be writing my final paper Edited by claes - 5/14/13 at 7:48am