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post #11 of 26
Noctua's NH-U14s might be a better buy these days , the NF-A15 PWM fan alone is $20 ; the NH-U12s performs close and is $70 retail (and is only going to get cheaper) but the NF-F12 isn't all that quiet and the True 120M does better thermally by a degree or two ( see http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1343-page6.html)

If noise isn't a concern you could drop $50 on Phanteks single tower cooler or a $40 Thermalright macho that comes within a few degrees of the NH-D14 at stock
Edited by AlphaC - 5/13/13 at 6:04pm
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post #12 of 26
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Originally Posted by AlphaC View Post

Noctua's NH-U14s might be a better buy these days , the NF-A15 PWM fan alone is $20 ; the NH-U12s performs close and is $70 retail (and is only going to get cheaper) but the NF-F12 isn't all that quiet and the True 120M does better thermally by a degree or two ( see http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1343-page6.html)

If noise isn't a concern you could drop $50 on Phanteks single tower cooler or a $40 Thermalright macho that comes within a few degrees of the NH-D14 at stock
NH U12S will never perform the same... u14s probably but NH D14 old fans are shi t
post #13 of 26
bad tested... all temperature must be the same in ambient and V8 cant be that good...
post #14 of 26
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Originally Posted by PontiacGTX View Post

NH U12S will never perform the same... u14s probably but NH D14 old fans are shi t

it performs close like the Phanteks single tower smile.gif

and the V6 isn't THAT bad thermally, it's just stupid loud stock fan http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/59957-phanteks-ph-tc14pe-ph-tc12dx-coolers-review-8.html

Considering the Phanteks single tower goes for the same price , performs the same for 10dB less, it's garbage though in the grand scheme of it all
Edited by AlphaC - 5/13/13 at 7:28pm
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post #15 of 26
I'm not really sure why you went on this rant, but I'll take the bait smile.gif
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No... you are wrong...

How quiet a heatsink is, is 95% about the fans. Furthermore, the NF-P12/P12/F12/F14 are not very quiet - they are good fans, but definitely not great by today's standards.
Uh this is what I said, which is why I wouldn't buy one of those AIOs - need better fans and the pumps are louder than the fans anyway.
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For example, the Silver Arrow is basically an identically performing heatsink, however the TY-140's are significantly quieteer than the NF-F14/P14s, so the Silver Arrows sound profile gets much, much quieter on higher fan speeds.
No... you are wrong... the TY-140 is a nice fan at low speeds - better than the NF-P14. However, it is irritating at faster speeds, with rough acoustics, particularly when compared to the NF-P14 (there is no NF-F14 - maybe you're thinking of the new A14 - haven't seen a legit review on that one yet). db are not everything, particularly when you are dealing with quiet fans - they're all quiet at low speeds, the noise character is what matters.
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1171-page5.html
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If you use 2 identical fans on all of the top heatsinks, the NH-D14 is second to last only to the Thermaltake Frio Extreme. The Logisys/Assassin outperforms the Nh-D14 both with it's utterly crap stock fans, and destroys it with identical fans. The Phanteks is much quieter with it's stock fans, and both with it's great stock fans and with identical fans, it's much better than the NH-D14.
Only one part of this is relavant to my concerns:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1291-page5.html
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That's nice, but it's apples to apples to everyone else. How much cooling performance can you get per dollar. Besides the 240mm radiators and fat 120s, high end air beats closed loops. But the best closed loops, beat the best air. High end air is only a few degrees behind something like an H100, but the Nh-D14 is actually quiet a few degrees behind something like a Corsair H100i or CM 240L or LQ-320.
That's nice, but it's not to me! How much silence can you get per dollar? See what I did there?
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Now, would you rather pay $45 for an Nh-D14, or $55 for an H100? Well, at those prices they are similar values, but H100s are a little harder to find at that price, while Nh-D14s are commonly $45. It's all about value.
I'm really not sure what your intentions are in arguing with me. Why are you telling me to act against my will? wink.gif




EDIT: Got bored and did some leg work:
Regarding the NF-A14…
Here it is beating the TY-140 in performance and acoustics: http://www.eteknix.com/noctua-nf-a14-uln-nf-a14-flx-and-nf-a15-pwm-fan-reviews/9/
Here it is beating the PH-14TS in performance and acoustics: http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/noctua_140mm_150mm_case_fan_roundup/5.htm

Also check out the new NH-U14s:
Here it is trading blows with the Phanteks with a single fan: http://ht4u.net/reviews/2013/noctua_nh-u14s_cpu-cooler_im_test/index9.php
Something must be wrong with this review - here it is beating the Phanteks and the Silver Arrow with dual fans, trading blows with one: http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/5434/noctua-nh-u14s-cpu-cooler-review/index8.html


/fan boy. well, i'm not actually a fan boy, i prefer noiseblocker smile.gif

should be writing my final paper frown.gif
Edited by claes - 5/14/13 at 7:48am
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post #16 of 26
Holy cow, such hate and fighting in this thread! I honestly didn't expect it....

There is more to a HSF than just noise; which this unit is not loud, at least not compared to some AIO water unit pumps or lower tier HSFs. The build quality of this product is second to none, the installation is second to none in terms of fitment and ease. I bought this at full retail, and felt it was money well spent, and I am typically a penny pinching cheap skate.

This is one of the best cooling options on the market for air cooling, it is on sale, it is worth the money. As to someone who mentioned it at $45, I have never seen it at that low of a price, but if it has been that low......DAUM!!! That is an insane deal!

Further on the subject of this verse the All In One water coolers, and this is coming from someone who has water cooled, there are issues and risks involved. I am not sure how many people I know of who have had one of those things spring a leak on them and thrash their rig. I know of VERY few people that water cool with a custom loop to have this issue. You also run into the problem of pump noise, some of the AIO units I have heard I wouldn't be able to use, because the level and type of noise the pump has made.
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^ It should fit any board, it conforms to certain standards in case and motherboard specifications to make sure it'll fit any 170mm+ wide case, and any atx/matx board.

Not exactly true, there are a few ATX boards on the list that it won't work on, as an example, certain Biostar boards the PCI-E slot is blocked....
    
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post #17 of 26
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Holy cow, such hate and fighting in this thread! I honestly didn't expect it....

There is more to a HSF than just noise; which this unit is not loud, at least not compared to some AIO water unit pumps or lower tier HSFs. The build quality of this product is second to none, the installation is second to none in terms of fitment and ease. I bought this at full retail, and felt it was money well spent, and I am typically a penny pinching cheap skate.

This is one of the best cooling options on the market for air cooling, it is on sale, it is worth the money. As to someone who mentioned it at $45, I have never seen it at that low of a price, but if it has been that low......DAUM!!! That is an insane deal!

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Not exactly true, there are a few ATX boards on the list that it won't work on, as an example, certain Biostar boards the PCI-E slot is blocked....

I think he meant $45 for the heatsink itself (unless used)? Since the fans are like $15ish these days at the very least, that's about $75 for the whole thing.

I've seen the whole thing go for $60 new and $50 on NCIX (which charges ~$10 in shipping).
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post #18 of 26
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I think he meant $45 for the heatsink itself (unless used)? Since the fans are like $15ish these days at the very least, that's about $75 for the whole thing.

I've seen the whole thing go for $60 new and $50 on NCIX (which charges ~$10 in shipping).

Belial often cites ebay prices in deals threads, and cooling products seem to be something he likes to write essays about. In the end, unless you are driving your cpu to the limit, you won't do bad by picking one of the good coolers (this is one of them if you fancy air coolers) and watch prices until you see a deal.
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I think he meant $45 for the heatsink itself (unless used)? Since the fans are like $15ish these days at the very least, that's about $75 for the whole thing.

I've seen the whole thing go for $60 new and $50 on NCIX (which charges ~$10 in shipping).

Yes, I have seen it 'cheaper' before, but then it wasn't free shipping, and after shipping the cost was the same as this sale or higher.

I also can't purchase with NCIX, my credit union and their merchant service won't processes payments to them due to NCIX having an extremely high Fraud Score. Not fraud in the sense of them not shipping out orders and cheating customers, but that they process a lot of fraudulent purchases with stolen cards, or as the merchant service for my credit union put it, "they have horrible customer protection when it comes to stolen credit cards."
    
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Yes, I have seen it 'cheaper' before, but then it wasn't free shipping, and after shipping the cost was the same as this sale or higher.

I also can't purchase with NCIX, my credit union and their merchant service won't processes payments to them due to NCIX having an extremely high Fraud Score. Not fraud in the sense of them not shipping out orders and cheating customers, but that they process a lot of fraudulent purchases with stolen cards, or as the merchant service for my credit union put it, "they have horrible customer protection when it comes to stolen credit cards."

Total opposite experience from what I had with NCIX. They automatically force signed delivery via shipping. No P.O. Box orders.
If your credit union has a problem with NCIX just use paypal.


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NH-D14 has been on sale for $65 plenty of times in recent months. NCIX and Rakuten (buy.com).
lowest price has been $49.99 (memoryexpress.com, NCIX.com and NCIXUS.com with free shipping
with $50+ purchase at the time).

Noctua NH-D14 $70 is a fair deal. good if you are in the market for a new dual tower heatsink.



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Standard dual fan setup @ 12V


Standard dual fan setup @ 7V




Noctua NH-U14S vs NH-U12S vs TRUE Spirit 140 vs Archon SB-E X2



Any hardware review site that uses synthetic bench test for pc cooling are very flawed.
taking the physical characteristics of a processor out of the equation. die size. IHS.
cpu mfg using different TDP measurements. convex processor vs flat. convex vs concave
heatsink base. mounting pressure. plus the air flow of a computer versus a bench test station.
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