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I'm holding off my judgement untill I see ACTUAL game benchmarks. Who knows, maybe Intels IGP this gen will actually be able to boot BF3
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Originally Posted by Stay Puft View Post

Whats the point in spending that kind of money for an APU setup zeal when you can just pickup an old video card for cheap and game a lot better at higher resolutions?

The point that you can get performance comparable to an i3+8800GT for about 230€ (CPU, RAM and board), with less than 90W of power consumption.

Does that sound good enough for you?

And I'm talking about Trinity, which is 8 months old and soon to be replaced.
   
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post #113 of 199
I really hope Intel is also concentrating on making the CPU faster. If it has no integrated graphics or if it has a good igp, it makes no difference to those of us who will have dedicated video cards.

It seems like, even if they let us disable the IGP and overclock; that if it was designed as a pure CPU from the beginning we'd end up with a better chip because it's heat centers would be more evenly distributed allowing for better cooling.
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I really like that their is focus in the PC market to fully integrate graphics into CPU's. I would much prefer only having to buy one 'APU' from either AMD or Intel that was good for gaming and not require a dedicated GPU. Save money and power use. Probably looking at about 3-5 years before dedicated GPU's will become optional and not required to run a lot of mainstream games..
There's no reason to believe that.

Intel's doing this to have higher margins, not give you more for less. Down the line, APUs will just force dedicated GPUs to be competitive in regards to pricing.
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post #115 of 199
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I'm not impressed, they doubled the size of the IGP in order to double the performance and it still doesn't match trinity. Kaveri with GCN will destroy it.

Who told you that HD4600 is double of HD4000 ? Proof ?

If you say that HD5200 is double the size then that might be more believable.
post #116 of 199
So my question is does this hold up outside of 3d mark cause as we all know intel cant make drivers to save there life. So they could have easily got a decent score in 3dmark just for marketing.
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This is exactly what is being compared in this topic, although this is not the right comparison means Haswell GPU vs Kaveri APU. wink.gif

Intel new Haswell GT2 HD 4600 Desktop GPU, is significantly worse(real gaming not 3DMark 11) than Trinity APU 2.0( with a old VLIW4 GPU arhitecture) good progress for Intel. worriedsmiley.gif


Do you really think that 3dmark favors intel iGPU more than AMD APU ?

You are mistaken. In most cases, the difference in gaming benchmark between i3 3225 and A10-5800 is much smaller than 3dmark
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/trinity-vs-ivy-bridge_10.html#sect0

HD4600 won't beat A10 trinity. However HD5200 is most likely going to be faster. Also, don't forget that mobile version of Trinity and Richland have lower GPU clocks than desktop parts. So, intel iGPU should be more competitive in laptops
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Originally Posted by karan.t View Post

Well even if the future APU releases might out perform the current Intel HD graphics, i bet the Intel future releases will then out perform the future APU releases that u refer to....... your turn

But then again, AMD APU's will have much better driver support.
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The point that you can get performance comparable to an i3+8800GT for about 230€ (CPU, RAM and board), with less than 90W of power consumption.

Does that sound good enough for you?

And I'm talking about Trinity, which is 8 months old and soon to be replaced.

That is impressive.
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I've heard that in actual gameplay, GPU usage, etc. that these On-board graphics are still lackluster despite their high scores.

Can anyone confirm/deny these rumors?
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