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I've heard that in actual gameplay, GPU usage, etc. that these On-board graphics are still lackluster despite their high scores.

Can anyone confirm/deny these rumors?

iGPUs are constrained by power, cooling, and die size. The CPU + iGPU have a maximum TDP of 77-100 watts. Compared to that, top end GPUs have a TDP of 200-250 watts. Mid-range GPUs (GTX 660/HD7850 levels) have a TDP ranging from 125-175 watts. The iGPU in current APUs are at approximately the level of a GT620/HD6570, probably less than that. For older games, 1080p is possible with settings turned down. For newer games, it's probably still possible with settings all the way down.
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post #122 of 199
Having built a fair few apu systems for my hard-up friends, I can honestly say I am blown away by the out of box performance.
They can obtain a well performing cpu with onboard ok-ish gpu then save up a few quid and boom, in goes a lower mid range dedicated gpu and the pc matches my current rig.

The price is the winner for AMD.

I am upgrading to Haswell because I want Intel performance, my Phenom II 965BE is showing it's age (especially being bested by a decent A10)

and this is all from experience, not benchmarks, just from the end user experience, which in the end is most important......ok maybe not for OCN performance dudes smile.gif
    
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Good news, AMD has really been bumping their IG performance much, this should get some things moving.
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HD5200 is going to be a beast...
HD5200 will be the beginning of the end of AMD teaching.gif
Edited by senna89 - 5/14/13 at 3:54am
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HD5200 will be the beginning of the end of AMD teaching.gif

yeeeeeea- no.
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HD5200 will be the beginning of the end of AMD teaching.gif

Except no.
   
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post #127 of 199
Ofcourse the HD5200 will be the beginning of the end, actually it will propably end the whole company right on release. Intel has always proved themselves with iGPU's haven't they? A picture of a chinese 3DMark 11 score, which is still weaker than AMD's offerings? Yeah this is going to be a winner(deep sarcasm) . I am not saying that this is bad, no not at all, the score is infact very good, but please wait for the release at least before declaring it a AMD "killer". Reminder, even though it says AMD overclocker it doesn't mean im some kind of a mad fanboy, infact trying to be the opposite here. Just happen to own a FX 8150 and soon 8350, because they suite my purpose and are at a good price point for me.
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post #128 of 199
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HD5200 is going to be a beast...
if you buy a i7 k why would you need onboard graphics ?
they would need to place the hd5200 on there pentium line but if they did this the price of the cpu would be much more than it is.
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if you buy a i7 k why would you need onboard graphics ?
they would need to place the hd5200 on there pentium line but if they did this the price of the cpu would be much more than it is.

HD5200 will be found on OEM BGA chips that will most likely end up in bigger ultrabooks, AIOs, normal higher end laptops etc.

All K series chips have HD4600
 
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HD5200 will be the beginning of the end of AMD teaching.gif

C'mon now, out of the Top 10 reasons for AMD's eventual and seemingly-inevitable demise (at least in the x86 space), HD5200 by itself isn't even on the "honorable mention" sidebar.

Now if Intel can continue improving their iGPU technology at the same rate for 2-3 more generations, perhaps then it might get up to #9...
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