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Assuming people that purchase a 4770k would use the HD4600 to game lolol.  Bring on the CPU heavy games.  let the GPU's handle the rest.

Because the 4770k is the only CPU with the HD4600 rolleyes.gif
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I'm a tad suspicious of 3dmark, some of their results resemble Passmark's habit of giving an Intel Core i7-2840QM (2.3 GHz) a higher score than an Intel Core i5-3570K (3.40GHz).

There is no way HT is going to make up for a 1 GHz difference and a slightly upgraded architecture.

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But at least said GT3e/HD5200 units with will outperform "Cool Ranch" Doritos in CPU-based benchmarks, which is a feat that even future APU releases most likely won't be able to do consistently...

I'm sorry, I missed the reference here. Inside joke? Pray tell.
   
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GT3E won't be in mobile devices either - the TDP is very high, even though it's a lot less than the desktop 4770. GT3 will mostly be limited to perhaps full size laptops (not macbooks or ultrabooks) and all in one systems.

I'm just saying, I don't think A10 to GT3E will be an "apples to apples" comparison, since A10 is more usable in many form factors. Although I do agree GT3E will certainly be a beast. AIOs have less reason to use discrete mobile chips now....

edit: you do mean GT3 graphics with HD5200 right? Or am I confusing things. I thought the HD5200 monkier was replaced with "iris and iris pro".

By mobile I was also referring to higher end laptops. Also the TDP to HD5200 (or GT3e) parts should be in the 50W range iirc so it's quite possible that you would find it in something like a retina MBP or other macbooks as well. Especially since it eliminates the power consumption of the discrete GPU.

HD5100 parts that come with less L4 and so on should have lower TDPs so I wouldn't be surprised if those trickle down to normal ultrabooks.
 
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By mobile I was also referring to higher end laptops. Also the TDP to HD5200 (or GT3e) parts should be in the 50W range iirc so it's quite possible that you would find it in something like a retina MBP or other macbooks as well. Especially since it eliminates the power consumption of the discrete GPU.

HD5100 parts that come with less L4 and so on should have lower TDPs so I wouldn't be surprised if those trickle down to normal ultrabooks.

I guess GT3 is plausible, although i'm not entirely sure that it will work in the ultrabook or macbook slim specification. Laptop, definitely (TDP matters a lot less here) but we'll see about ultrabooks. Although i'd prefer discrete in the rMBP, I hope the Iris Pro is as good as hyped. If so, nvidia definitely has reason to worry - a lot of potentially lost sales through Apple. I can see Apple using GT3 for most of their stuff if it does indeed fit the ultraslim case size. I can see apple not using nvidia if the GT3 is indeed as good as the GT650.

Actually, now that I think about it - you're probably right. The GT3 would still be less TDP than a discrete graphics chip and mobile intel CPU. So it could very well work in ultra portable devices (and by this i'm specifically referring to ultrabooks/macbook air/MBP instead of laptops). We'll see this summer! smile.gif
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I'm not sure if that will actually save AMD APU's. Intel processors are currently much better in performance and TDP than AMD cpu's allowing Intel to focus on the IGPU component to come up with such fast performance increase over generations. AMD has to focus on increasing the performance of the CPU and decreasing the wattage usage at the same time as increasing performance of the IGPU giving Intel a much better position in the perspective future.

You maybe right, but it doesn't all come to that, AMD APU's will always be cheaper than Intel's IGPU's which will attract the consumer market more than anything.
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You maybe right, but it doesn't all come to that, AMD APU's will always be cheaper than Intel's IGPU's which will attract the consumer market more than anything.

Intel's GT3E is far better for the mobile and AIO market. I'm just not sure if the GT3E works in the ultra slim (ultrabook/macbook air) form factor. If it does, that will be reason for AMD to worry. Additionally, If the Iris pro beats the AMD A10, AMD has another reason to worry. Because intel will have better performance and better efficiency..... The A10 doesn't exactly work in a slim ultrabook form factor, but it is a good HTPC chip.
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Probably looking at about 3-5 years before dedicated GPU's will become optional and not required to run a lot of mainstream games..

Not gonna happen.
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Intel's GT3E is far better for the mobile and AIO market.

Why?
   
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Intel's GT3E is far better for the mobile and AIO market. I'm just not sure if the GT3E works in the ultra slim (ultrabook/macbook air) form factor. If it does, that will be reason for AMD to worry. Additionally, If the Iris pro beats the AMD A10, AMD has another reason to worry. Because intel will have better performance and better efficiency..... The A10 doesn't exactly work in a slim ultrabook form factor, but it is a good HTPC chip.

...and then Kaveri gets released by AMD from their labs into fabs to mass production and swept away anything Intel ever had in GPU compartment. Intel falls into oblivion and quits IGP race forever! biggrin.gif
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