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Completely agreed, DPH - I see the entire flashing business as a worthless endeavor for two reasons. One, not all GTX 680s will be able to sustain 7GHz VRAM speeds. Secondly, this is nothing that one cannot do on their own. You can easily clock the 680 to 770 speeds, or in many cases higher - the highest overclocked 680s will still be faster than the 770. So why bother? I mean, does anyone feel validation of self worth by just having a video card with a 7 prefix instead of a 6? Seems like an utter waste of time to me, since the BIOS does nothing that you can't do by simply overclocking. A BIOS will not magically change the electronics and VRM on your card. Just IMO. Waste-of-time. But hey you can get a 7 prefix now!redface.gif

I actually sometimes prefer flashing to just using some cumbersome OCing utility like precisionX. Once you've flashed your card with a BIOS that has higher 3d clocks you don't need to worry about it anymore. No applying at startup or anything. Gives a better experience overall.
 
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I actually sometimes prefer flashing to just using some cumbersome OCing utility like precisionX. Once you've flashed your card with a BIOS that has higher 3d clocks you don't need to worry about it anymore. No applying at startup or anything. Gives a better experience overall.

I don't mind using MSI afterburner for it, but you have a good point nonetheless. I guess it could be useful to some for the reasons you mention.

Hopefully folks won't blindly flash to it, though - I can definitely see the VRAM speed being an issue for some reference 680s. I'm actually surprised that the 770 is using 7GHz VRAM.
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I actually sometimes prefer flashing to just using some cumbersome OCing utility like precisionX. Once you've flashed your card with a BIOS that has higher 3d clocks you don't need to worry about it anymore. No applying at startup or anything. Gives a better experience overall.

Me either, hopefully I can get a hold of a ASUS 770 DCUII top bios that ups the memory while maintaining the stock OC of my 680 version of the card in the future.
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Completely agreed, DPH - I see the entire flashing business as a worthless endeavor for two reasons. One, not all GTX 680s will be able to sustain 7GHz VRAM speeds. Secondly, this is nothing that one cannot do on their own. You can easily clock the 680 to 770 speeds, or in many cases higher - the highest overclocked 680s will still be faster than the 770. So why bother? I mean, does anyone feel validation of self worth by just having a video card with a 7 prefix instead of a 6? Seems like an utter waste of time to me, since the BIOS does nothing that you can't do by simply overclocking. A BIOS will not magically change the electronics and VRM on your card. Just IMO. Waste-of-time. But hey you can get a 7 prefix now!redface.gif

I actually sometimes prefer flashing to just using some cumbersome OCing utility like precisionX. Once you've flashed your card with a BIOS that has higher 3d clocks you don't need to worry about it anymore. No applying at startup or anything. Gives a better experience overall.

That's my point though smile.gif. Why would someone flash to a 770 BIOS when they could just edit their own and flash to that one? The 770 BIOS won't have any benefit other than higher clocks, as you said. But what I mean is, what are the odds that the 770 BIOS raises clocks to exactly what your 680 is stable at? It'll either raise the memory too high, or not raise the core high enough. So if someone would like to bypass having to manually adjust clocks with Afterburner every time, why not just edit their 680 BIOS to their stable overclock and flash that instead of the 770 one?

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I actually sometimes prefer flashing to just using some cumbersome OCing utility like precisionX. Once you've flashed your card with a BIOS that has higher 3d clocks you don't need to worry about it anymore. No applying at startup or anything. Gives a better experience overall.

Me either, hopefully I can get a hold of a ASUS 770 DCUII top bios that ups the memory while maintaining the stock OC of my 680 version of the card in the future.

I'm sure someone around here wouldn't mind editing your BIOS to the clocks you'd like.
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That's my point though smile.gif. Why would someone flash to a 770 BIOS when they could just edit their own and flash to that one? The 770 BIOS won't have any benefit other than higher clocks, as you said. But what I mean is, what are the odds that the 770 BIOS raises clocks to exactly what your 680 is stable at? It'll either raise the memory too high, or not raise the core high enough. So if someone would like to bypass having to manually adjust clocks with Afterburner every time, why not just edit their 680 BIOS to their stable overclock and flash that instead of the 770 one?
I'm sure someone around here wouldn't mind editing your BIOS to the clocks you'd like.

I was talking about flashing vs. software utilities in general but yes you are correct tongue.gif
 
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Well, guess we will se eventually how true this is. If GTX 770 comes out with the same exact chip etc, with higher price, I will never buy from them again. I know people on here will argue that everyone does it so why the fuss? But seriously, just on principle alone consumers should be absolutely offended. Comsumers contol the market. Buying scam products like this could turn out to be is nothing but enabling this behavior. But it's cool, epeen stroking is more important.
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That's my point though smile.gif. Why would someone flash to a 770 BIOS when they could just edit their own and flash to that one? The 770 BIOS won't have any benefit other than higher clocks, as you said. But what I mean is, what are the odds that the 770 BIOS raises clocks to exactly what your 680 is stable at? It'll either raise the memory too high, or not raise the core high enough. So if someone would like to bypass having to manually adjust clocks with Afterburner every time, why not just edit their 680 BIOS to their stable overclock and flash that instead of the 770 one?
I'm sure someone around here wouldn't mind editing your BIOS to the clocks you'd like.

I was talking about flashing vs. software utilities in general but yes you are correct tongue.gif

Ah, sorry. I guess we were arguing the exact same point lol
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Very sceptical. I might flash my 670 to an unlocked voltage BIOS if I get into watercooling. This does seem interesting though.
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Not really. AMD still has no answer for it so Nvidia is free to price it at whatever they want. The real question is how much faster it will be than a 7970GE and if AMD might not boost clocks again just to shore things up til the 9970 comes later this year...

 

Agreed. Does no one remember the MSRP for 7970? It was $550 with custom versions being even higher. Nvidia was a little late to the party so releasing a new GPU to undercut the 7970 was pretty much the best move possible and it worked. If the pricing is ridiculous, it will simmer down when a counterpart is released.

 

All I know is that the end of May cannot come quick enough. I'm getting tired of people going up in arms or start flaming over speculation.

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Can I flash my GTX 640 to convert it to a GTX Titan Quad SLI?

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