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For one, they weren't being released as a completely new generation of cards with a new name that couldn't be paired with the last gen of cards in SLI/Crossfire. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of AMD releasing the GHz Edition and Boost and charging more for them without guaranteeing a higher binned GPU, but at least they still play nice with the non-GHz Edition/non-Boost cards and they are sold as part of the same generation.

That's fine. Being reasonable, you see the issue with both sides doing this. That is all I'm asking here.

It's not fair to bury one without burying the other while they are pulling similar tricks on the consumer.
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I wonder if anyone with a lightning would be willing to try, or classified.
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For one, they weren't being released as a completely new generation of cards with a new name that couldn't be paired with the last gen of cards in SLI/Crossfire. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of AMD releasing the GHz Edition and Boost and charging more for them without guaranteeing a higher binned GPU, but at least they still play nice with the non-GHz Edition/non-Boost cards and they are sold as part of the same generation.

That's fine. Being reasonable, you see the issue with both sides doing this. That is all I'm asking here.

It's not fair to bury one without burying the other while they are pulling similar tricks on the consumer.

well that's the only way to look at the situation. the ghz edition was never worth it to me, but that may be a bit harsh. supposedly binned (doubtful, and if true it served no benefits over the launch 7970) and clocked a bit higher. nvidia is putting out the same chip in new series, similar to the 9800 -> gtx250 thing. the 770 will cost similar to what a 680 goes for before being EOL'd or less. The cooler is better and we have yet to find out what, if any, new tweaks or improvements to features the 770 (the 700 series in general) will bring. not the same thing as a simple clock speed bump to gain back ground for your current series of cards in "professional" reviews.
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This isn't true at all. Volume economics still plays a role in consumer activity independent of what role AMD has in a competing part, period. There are plenty of people who draw a price line and won't cross it if it's priced at 650$ - you and me, have no issue with these costs but MOST customers do. There are plenty of consumers who bought the 680 at 500$, but absolutely will not buy it at 650$. In fact, the mere mention of 650$-700 brought scoffing from many 680 owners at various other forums. Volume economics plays a role, and nvidia cannot simply price it in the stratosphere out of arrogance. That is, if they want to sell an appreciable amount - consumers aren't sheep. They have price limits. Now I understand that SOME will buy it, but a lot won't. Even a lot of 680 owners, won't, if it's 650$-700$.

In fact, the highest sellers are GPUs around 200$ - the 200$ price range far outsells anything in the higher price brackets. Volume economics. The other fact is, if it is indeed 650$ it is completely out of line with prior generation price/performance increases. The titan differentiates itself by having 6GB. If the 780 is 3GB and 650$, that is complete price gouging, period.

It's not often I agree with you, but this is spot on. thumb.gif

I wish we had statistics of what percentage of consumers buy Titans, 680, 670, 660 etc. I bet Titan is in the 1% - 5% tops range for NVIDIA.
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So Nvidia is doing the same thing here that AMD did last summer putting a new bios on the 7950 "boost" and the 7970 "ghz".

But yet we have AMD owners in bashing Nvidia for doing it.

Makes sense. rolleyes.gif

In this case, NVIDIA is actually selling it for LESS, that's a shocker. 680 with higher clocks, better and nicer cooler for $400, what's not to like?

When AMD created the GHZ edition, they simply upped the clocks, and upped the price by $50 over regular 7970's.
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It's not often I agree with you, but this is spot on. thumb.gif

I wish we had statistics of what percentage of consumers buy Titans, 680, 670, 660 etc. I bet Titan is in the 1% - 5% tops range for NVIDIA.
In this case, NVIDIA is actually selling it for LESS, that's a shocker. 680 with higher clocks, better and nicer cooler for $400, what's not to like?

When AMD created the GHZ edition, they simply upped the clocks, and upped the price by $50 over regular 7970's.

You mean released it @ a price $100 Lower then HD 7970 launched. HD 7970 GHz will still be faster then this card is its old now.
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You mean released it @ a price $100 Lower then HD 7970 launched. HD 7970 GHz will still be faster then this card is its old now.

Wasn't it $50 more than regular 7970's?

They HAD to lower prices after the 680 launched, otherwise, they would've been happily selling 7970's for $550 - $600 for as long as they could. Even that took almost 3 weeks to drop prices.
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Wasn't it $50 more than regular 7970's?

They HAD to lower prices after the 680 launched, otherwise, they would've been happily selling 7970's for $550 - $600 for as long as they could. Even that took almost 3 weeks to drop prices.

When the 680 launched the 7970 was still around 530 dollars. They then were forced to lower it
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Wasn't it $50 more than regular 7970's?

They HAD to lower prices after the 680 launched, otherwise, they would've been happily selling 7970's for $550 - $600 for as long as they could. Even that took almost 3 weeks to drop prices.

7970 ghz launch price was $499 confirmed by many sites.

The 7970 dropped price to make room for the 7970 ghz at the same price point.
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These bios are currently no different then any other 680 bios except for changing the name from 680 to 770. At least from what I can see.

Funny thing the inf that was enclosed is basically changing the ID of the 680 to 770...

NVIDIA_DEV.1180 = "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770"

NVIDIA_DEV.1180 = "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680"

SO I AM CALLING THIS FAKE.
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These bios are currently no different then any other 680 bios except for changing the name from 680 to 770. At least from what I can see.

Funny thing the inf that was enclosed is basically changing the ID of the 680 to 770...

NVIDIA_DEV.1180 = "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770"

NVIDIA_DEV.1180 = "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680"

SO I AM CALLING THIS FAKE.

Isn't that pretty much the only difference?
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