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to heck with apple. steve jobs was a genius, but this is frackin stupid. instead of paying such a high price for apple, just buy your own parts, build a pc with an ssd and install Linux Ubuntu and youll have basically the apple experience for less then half the cost
 
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to heck with apple. steve jobs was a genius, but this is frackin stupid. instead of paying such a high price for apple, just buy your own parts, build a pc with an ssd and install Linux Ubuntu and youll have basically the apple experience for less then half the cost

No.

When I installed Mac I didn't have to spend 30-45 minutes messing with drivers. With Ubuntu I did, and when I did get all the drivers installed I had frequent problems with it.
    
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The only reason Macs work like that is because the OS only recognizes "Mac approved" stuff. This results in two major issues.

1. Less selection
2. Price gouging.

If PC's were like that, you can bet that most issues related to drivers would disappear.
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Thank goodness I only use iTunes cards to replenish my Apple store account. eek.gif
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The only reason Macs work like that is because the OS only recognizes "Mac approved" stuff. This results in two major issues.

1. Less selection
2. Price gouging.

If PC's were like that, you can bet that most issues related to drivers would disappear.
That is only true for real genuine Mac's because when you go for a Hackintosh then you can pick and mix the parts you like.
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Originally Posted by Mad Pistol View Post

The only reason Macs work like that is because the OS only recognizes "Mac approved" stuff. This results in two major issues.

1. Less selection
2. Price gouging.

If PC's were like that, you can bet that most issues related to drivers would disappear.

I have a PC Graphics card in my Mac, asmedia 1061 eSata card, and a Matrox compressor card, and a Velocity Solo x2..none of these are "Apple" approved
 
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The woman was stupid enough to send all that personal information in the first place without thinking. Heck, if she's that dumb to send information without thought I'm sure this isn't the first time she's done so.

Stupid people exist solely to make the world a better place for smart people and a nightmare for themselves.
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The woman was stupid enough to send all that personal information in the first place without thinking. Heck, if she's that dumb to send information without thought I'm sure this isn't the first time she's done so.

Stupid people exist solely to make the world a better place for smart people and a nightmare for themselves.

I am all for calling stupid people stupid, but I don't think that is the total case here. She made a stupid choice, but my guess is that she was fixated on trying to get her son this device and decided to give these people her documents out of sheer fatigue just to then realize they had maybe a social security number or bank account number.

Obviously she was smart enough to contact the authorities when she realized the gravity of what she had done.

Sometimes people make dumb mistakes. Other times people make REALLY dumb mistakes.

I would simply say that she is human.....not stupid. If she had done nothing at all, or just sat their in a state of panic and waited to take action, then I would completely agree with you.
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I am all for calling stupid people stupid, but I don't think that is the total case here. She made a stupid choice, but my guess is that she was fixated on trying to get her son this device and decided to give these people her documents out of sheer fatigue just to then realize they had maybe a social security number or bank account number.

Obviously she was smart enough to contact the authorities when she realized the gravity of what she had done.

Sometimes people make dumb mistakes. Other times people make REALLY dumb mistakes.

I would simply say that she is human.....not stupid. If she had done nothing at all, or just sat their in a state of panic and waited to take action, then I would completely agree with you.

I think you missed my point. Contacting authorities after the fact is not smart, she just hoping her stupid mistake can be salvaged. And don't make up your own speculations like "because she was tired".

I'm saying she has a habit of giving out her information without thought, it just so happens this time it was not malicious but thought it was weird that a tech company like Apple would ask for such sensitive information. Who knows on how many other occasions she's given out her information without thinking?

If your standards of being human is this level of stupidity, I'm at a loss for words…

Parents teach their kids never to talk to strangers, I would expect a full grown adult to question requests such as this one instead of acting first and regretting later. She just got lucky this time.
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If your standards of being human is this level of stupidity, I'm at a loss for words…

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh don't worry. If we had this conversation maybe 10 years ago, I would completely agree with you.

Two things are stopping me from calling this woman flat out dumb.

1: It sounds like something my mom would do. tongue.gif

2: I have seen real stupidity. I promise you......this woman is a genius compared to some of the people I have met. Two people in particular that I know are my benchmark for stupid. She is no where near as bad as they are.

I also want to point out that calling the cops after you made this type of mistake might not be so stupid SO LONG AS you are SO convinced that someone has just stolen your identity that you wish to report a crime. Also, it isn't bad to try and fix this type of a mistake as quickly as possible either. It also depends on what were on those documents. If it were just bank account info, then yes the police would be very extreme. However, if a social security card number were involved, then calling the police could have been a smart move.

To sum up that paragraph, I guess it really all comes down to particulars. I don't particularly think it is stupid to try and quickly rectify your mistakes either. It would probably be dumber to just sit there and wait for the problem to get worse. Or maybe I am still not interpreting what you are saying correctly?

"I'm saying she has a habit of giving out her information without thought, it just so happens this time it was not malicious but thought it was weird that a tech company like Apple would ask for such sensitive information. Who knows on how many other occasions she's given out her information without thinking?"

I don't have a degree in psychology by any stretch of the imagination, but I seriously doubt this is the case. Someone who goes to the extreme of calling the police after realizing such a mistake seems unlikely to have made the mistake previously or make this mistake again. At least that is what I am interpreting.

"Parents teach their kids never to talk to strangers, I would expect a full grown adult to question requests such as this one instead of acting first and regretting later. She just got lucky this time."

You see.....this is one of those statements that I whole heatedly agree with, but at the same time take with a grain of salt. I want to keep this conversation fairly short so that we don't upset the OCN gods, and maybe we can continue this conversation through the PM system (I do love these kinds of debates smile.gif ). Essentially my faith in humanity has just disintegrated over the years. You have to understand...just the fact that she realized she made a mistake actually restores some of my faith. I am NOT saying that what she did or how she handled it was the best way. However, I know a crap ton of people that would have done FARRRRRRR worse. So hats off to her for being a little bit better than the fools I know.

Hopefully that makes more sense. smile.gif
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