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Hey guys,

I've found a set of the AD700's for £80 incl P&P, best deal I can find around and I've heard nothing but great reviews for them, as far as I can see, I'm going to find nothing for under £100 that are as good, except the Sennheiser HD 518, which I've heard aren't as good as the AD700's, with only a £5 difference, it makes sense to me to go for the AD700's.

What I need to know is, do I need a soundcard for these headphones to be effective? I've heard that getting a headset like this should be paired with a soundcard like an Asus Xonar. But I have SLi on a AsRock Z77 ExTreme6, unsure if putting in a sound card is going to fit well.

Would the built in sound work well enough or will I see a sizable difference in getting a soundcard?

Thanks.
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Look at headphone amps or DACs.

Pretty much anything will sound better than on board.
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Can you please explain what DAC's and Amp's are and do?
Or link me to the appropriate article.

I'm mainly concerned with a surround effect when gaming at the moment.
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I recommend the Creative Titanium HD, it's been the best sound card for me with the ATH-AD700'S. The headphones excel at positional audio and giving you a sense of "aural space", which is amplified by the way the TiHD mixes the audio.
   
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Can you please explain what DAC's and Amp's are and do?
Or link me to the appropriate article.

I'm mainly concerned with a surround effect when gaming at the moment.

A couple of things.

The surround sound in gaming is sort of a wash; especially considering that you only have on board sound. You don't have to worry about it. You will still have a 3D experience with a dac and amp.

DAC stands for Digital to analog converter. It takes a digital signal and converts it into an analog signal that can be amplified. A better dac will generally have a more open sound stage and a cleaner sound.

An amp essentially takes that analog signal and amplifies it. Essentially it makes the music louder without adding in noise. So again you end up getting cleaner sound. If you really wanted to get into it, then one could say that an amp changes the over all sound signature, but I do not think we need to get into that topic.
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I recommend the Creative Titanium HD, it's been the best soundcard for me with the ATH-AD700'S. The headphones excel at positional audio and giving you a sense of "aural space", which is amplified by the way the TiHD mixes the audio.

That card comes in at around £150... I was hping to find something for around £50 max... My budget is really tight.

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Originally Posted by Tjj226 Angel View Post

A couple of things.

The surround sound in gaming is sort of a wash; especially considering that you only have on board sound. You don't have to worry about it. You will still have a 3D experience with a dac and amp.

DAC stands for Digital to analog converter. It takes a digital signal and converts it into an analog signal that can be amplified. A better dac will generally have a more open sound stage and a cleaner sound.

An amp essentially takes that analog signal and amplifies it. Essentially it makes the music louder without adding in noise. So again you end up getting cleaner sound. If you really wanted to get into it, then one could say that an amp changes the overall sound signature, but I do not think we need to get into that topic.

Thank you very much for the info, best explanation I've gotten so far. I think I'll stick to a sound card right now until I get some more money through.
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That card comes in at around £150... I was hping to find something for around £50 max... My budget is really tight.
Thank you very much for the info, best explanation I've gotten so far. I think I'll stick to a sound card right now until I get some more money through.

Yeah so long as it fits on your mobo the get the DGX sound card.

Your next upgrade should be your headphones. If you like the ad700s then get the ath-ad900x. If you do not like the ad700s then work up for either used sennheiser HD600s or used He-400s.

After that, upgrade your sound card to something like the O2 amp and the Odac thumb.gif
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Ordered the Asus Xonar DGX.

Thank you very much for all your help smile.gif
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Ordered the Asus Xonar DGX.

Thank you very much for all your help smile.gif

I'm rocking the Xonar DG , I wouldn't want to spend more on a sound card but I certainly would not want to be without it.
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I'm rocking the Xonar DG , I wouldn't want to spend more on a sound card but I certainly would not want to be without it.

I bought mine over on Amazon, already had a £10 gift card, so it only came in at £17 biggrin.gif

It was only £2 more than the Xonar DG
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