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I really think this is going to flop unless they add more features. There are already existing products that are cheaper than this. I feel the people that do buy this though wil buy it under false pretense, thinking that they will be able to stream this from their kelper over the the internet. I dont understand why anyone would want to stream to a little portable machine when they can play the game, full screen, on their computer in front of them.
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I wonder...

If a tablet/phone was able to sync or be wired to a controller, couldn't you use a streaming app on a tablet/phone like Splashtop and essentially play from it? Probably won't be 60FPS and the integration would be non existent, but you should be able to achieve playing a PC game from a tablet/phone through this method.

I played League of Legends on my phone with Splashtop. I didn't have a bluetooth controller to try out but it worked tongue.gif
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Streaming is completely worthless. IF I could stream from my house to another city 100 miles away, then it would perhaps be useful. As things are, it's worthless. Utterly worthless.

I do agree with you on this. I was thinking of getting one until I read about it days ago that you can only stream PC games on same network. It would have been nice to play with one of this while you're hundred/thousand of miles miles away from home but sadly it's not going to happen. As one critic said...

"In other words, it's an Android device that lets you give your PC a Wii U gamepad for the price of a Nintendo Wii U Deluxe Kit $344.98 at Sam's Club. Oh, and you can play Android games on it wherever you want."

"The Nvidia Shield should have stayed a project, an experiment for the company to develop features and ideas it could pitch for future products. On its own, it's too expensive and doesn't offer enough gaming bang for the buck. Maybe an Nvidia Shield Gamepad compatible with any Tegra-based Android device (like the Editors' Choice Moga Pro Controller ) for a fraction of the price of the Shield itself, and offering the PC streaming app separately to any device that could handle it. On its own, the Nvidia Shield is a product nobody really asked for."

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2418941,00.asp

Why would I buy this when I already have my Wii U that can do the same thing? Hard to imagine if this is going to sell. For this product to sell it needs to be able to stream games on WAN. I don't think there's somebody out there crazy enough to buy this mainly to play Android games.
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I really think this is going to flop unless they add more features. There are already existing products that are cheaper than this. I feel the people that do buy this though wil buy it under false pretense, thinking that they will be able to stream this from their kelper over the the internet. I dont understand why anyone would want to stream to a little portable machine when they can play the game, full screen, on their computer in front of them.

While it is a gimmick, the idea behind is to cater to a couch gamers by delivering PC gaming to their living rooms.

5 inch screen is not the only display option, it can stream to any modern TV.
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While it is a gimmick, the idea behind is to cater to a couch gamers by delivering PC gaming to their living rooms.

5 inch screen is not the only display option, it can stream to any modern TV.

So from PC, to Shield, to TV?

My 660ti will poop itself then die.
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Why would I buy this when I already have my Wii U that can do the same thing? Hard to imagine if this is going to sell. For this product to sell it needs to be able to stream games on WAN. I don't think there's somebody out there crazy enough to buy this mainly to play Android games.

Because AMD and Nintendo did it with Wii U. If anything this is Nvidia going "help! We can't make anything new and unique that turns a profit so lets be like AMD and Nintendo!"

It hurts a lot, because it's at a time when Nvidia canned GK114 to give us a rebranded GK104 GTX 680 (and if you don't believe me, ask yourself why there's no GF10x to GF 11x jump or anything this year).

I'm really growing concerned about the future, it seems like Intel and Nvidia just want to shoehorn their products into places they don't belong and then try and dazzle everyone with marketing into thinking they need these new things. Products like these and products that chase after historically irrelevant specifications (like desktop power consumption) don't solve any real world problems, and products that don't solve problems only get big if you can manage to convince a lot of people that they do have a problem and they need something to fix the problem you just made up (ergo iPad).

If anything Shield is an embarrassment. It means Nvidia needs to get rid of Tegra chips and can't so it has to sell them themselves (imagine if no one was buying AMD chips and AMD resorted to selling complete AMD devices directly). It means they are also struggling to create products which people actually want and instead are trying to, well, con people into thinking they need something through marketing.
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Another toy for the boy - no wonder most of the next generation will be supporting spec savers profits! redface.gif

Really peeves me of all these gimmicks, nearly where ever you go some little kid is burning his eyes before their natural time mad.gif
post #78 of 157
So they indeed kept developing that outrageous thing, and now they ask 350 bucks for it?

Let me have a good laugh.
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I think the point of this is that you can stream you pc games to the device. Or atleast its a bonus. If so, say hello to emulator n64 Zelda OOT device!?!?!

It's called the 3DS. And it has a remastered version, with Master Quest mode included, and in full 3D thumb.gif
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Once someone has one and reverse engineers the software, the apk or whatever is needed for streaming will be hacked and released to other devices. Oh wait...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--KyYmRElLo
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The only mistake I see is the price. I personally think it's a bit steep for their entry level device into crowded competition for people's attention. However they are offering new options with streaming to modern TV's. Again I say, this is just their first shot over the bow with a gaming console.

What happens if / when Nvidia decides to say to Sony / Microsoft "I'LL CRUSH YOU", after getting shut-out of being a chip supplier for their new consoles. biggrin.gif Or at best steal some percentage of the market making either console struggle with margin which could hurt them a lot more than Nvidia. "If you can't Join em, Beat em".

Ask yourselves what did Nvidia take away from getting rejected for the new Sony and MS consoles. Down the road if they built a Full console with a Steam backend etc for real AAA games , would you buy a console with a Modern fully up to date GPU installed? While far fetched for today, as we can never see anything until it is delivered... wink.gif

Rejections that made people "Determined":

* Beethoven was once declared hopeless at “composing” by his music teacher.
* Elvis Presley was fired by The Grand Old Opry after only one performance. He was told, “You ain’t going nowhere son. You ought to go back to driving a truck.”
* Michael Jordon was kicked off his high school basketball team.
* Stephen King threw his manuscript, Carrie, in the garbage because he was tired of the rejections. In fact he gave up posting his rejection slips on the bulletin board above his computer once they were too thick for a pin.
* Oprah Winfrey was rejected for the first news anchor position she applied for because she was African-American and overweight.
* John Grisham, best-selling author, was rejected by sixteen agents and a dozen publishing houses before his novel, A Time to Kill, was accepted.
* Fred Astaire, was turned down by four movie studios and had an executive say this about him, “Ears too big, balding, can’t sing—dances a little.”
* The Beatles were turned down by executives who said, “We don’t like their sound. Groups with guitars are on the way out.”
* Clint Eastwood was told that he would never be a movie star because his Adam’s apple was too big.
* F. Scott Fitzgerald was once told by an editor; “You’d have a decent book if you'd get rid of that Gatsby character."
Edited by Ghoxt - 5/15/13 at 6:53am
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