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If only this was implemented into other devices (bigger tablets/laptops/TV's/other PC's) and it had a wide selection of compatible games, this would be HUGE.  If only this could somehow stream to a small dongle that you attach to the HDMI port of a TV in the house  :(

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The only mistake I see is the price. I personally think it's a bit steep for their entry level device into crowded competition for people's attention. However they are offering new options with streaming to modern TV's. Again I say, this is just their first shot over the bow with a gaming console.

What happens if / when Nvidia decides to say to Sony / Microsoft "I'LL CRUSH YOU", after getting shut-out of being a chip supplier for their new consoles. biggrin.gif Or at best steal some percentage of the market making either console struggle with margin which could hurt them a lot more than Nvidia. "If you can't Join em, Beat em".

Ask yourselves what did Nvidia take away from getting rejected for the new Sony and MS consoles. Down the road if they built a Full console with a Steam backend etc for real AAA games , would you buy a console with a Modern fully up to date GPU installed? While far fetched for today, as we can never see anything until it is delivered... wink.gif

Rejections that made people "Determined":

* Beethoven was once declared hopeless at “composing” by his music teacher.
* Elvis Presley was fired by The Grand Old Opry after only one performance. He was told, “You ain’t going nowhere son. You ought to go back to driving a truck.”
* Michael Jordon was kicked off his high school basketball team.
* Stephen King threw his manuscript, Carrie, in the garbage because he was tired of the rejections. In fact he gave up posting his rejection slips on the bulletin board above his computer once they were too thick for a pin.
* Oprah Winfrey was rejected for the first news anchor position she applied for because she was African-American and overweight.
* John Grisham, best-selling author, was rejected by sixteen agents and a dozen publishing houses before his novel, A Time to Kill, was accepted.
* Fred Astaire, was turned down by four movie studios and had an executive say this about him, “Ears too big, balding, can’t sing—dances a little.”
* The Beatles were turned down by executives who said, “We don’t like their sound. Groups with guitars are on the way out.”
* Clint Eastwood was told that he would never be a movie star because his Adam’s apple was too big.
* F. Scott Fitzgerald was once told by an editor; “You’d have a decent book if you'd get rid of that Gatsby character."

It is not the idea behind the tech that I've seen people acting negatively towards, it's the price and its current implementation.


Nvidia have gone for:


When imo, they should have gone for a:


Just replace the heavier/bulkier Razer edge in the pictures with a light weight/thin 10 inch android tablet with a Tegra 4 chip and people would be much more willing to shell out $400.

Imo.
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The only mistake I see is the price. I personally think it's a bit steep for their entry level device into crowded competition for people's attention. However they are offering new options with streaming to modern TV's. Again I say, this is just their first shot over the bow with a gaming console.

What happens if / when Nvidia decides to say to Sony / Microsoft "I'LL CRUSH YOU", after getting shut-out of being a chip supplier for their new consoles. biggrin.gif Or at best steal some percentage of the market making either console struggle with margin which could hurt them a lot more than Nvidia. "If you can't Join em, Beat em".

Ask yourselves what did Nvidia take away from getting rejected for the new Sony and MS consoles. Down the road if they built a Full console with a Steam backend etc for real AAA games , would you buy a console with a Modern fully up to date GPU installed? While far fetched for today, as we can never see anything until it is delivered... wink.gif

Rejections that made people "Determined":

Bad analogies deleted rolleyes.gif

Not trying to be rude or anything, but you truly are kidding yourself if you think Sony or MS are worried about either the ouya or shield. I get it - you love nvidia. I like their GPUs too. There's nothing wrong with that , but don't let that cloud your judgement on what is an overpriced, undesirable product. The shield would be a neat toy at 99$. At 350$, that's incredibly overpriced for a product that can't find a niche.

Android games suck and won't approach the quality of even xbox 360 games (8 years old?), and the Tegra 4 GPU is actually 92Gflops vs 240 Gflops on the 360. The streaming feature would be good IF it streamed across the internet, but house hold only streaming is worthless. The vita is cheaper, has PSN online with free game downloads and a HUGE selection of AAA games tailored to the hardware. Meanwhile, the shield has android games. android games. Maybe you should play a few to realize what a joke android games are.

So nvidia wants you to pay 350$ for a product that is 1/3rd as powerful as an xbox 360 (92 Gflops Tegra 4, Xbox 360 240Gflops) and that is pretty hilarious. Xbox 360 is 10 years old. For 350$, you can almost get an xbox 360 _and_ a PS3. You can get a WiiU. You can almost get a 3DS and a Vita. And all of those systems don't play worthless pixel and vector graphic smartphone games, tegra 4 doesn't even have unified shaders - which is required for modern gaming. For 99$, I could look past this. For 350$, I think it's absolutely hilarious, and not in a good way for nvidia.
Edited by xoleras - 5/15/13 at 7:37am
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This is a niche product intended mainly for the hardcore. Basically it's main selling feature is the ability to stream PC games, not to play Android games (you can get the Android games already on smartphones/tablets). The lack of wide area network PC game streaming is what makes this product an epic failure even for the hardcore. Even if Nvidia cut $100 off the price still this won't sell.
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This is a niche product intended mainly for the hardcore. Basically it's main selling feature is the ability to stream PC games, not to play Android games. The lack of wide area network PC game streaming is what makes this product an epic failure. Even if Nvidia cut $100 off the price still this won't sell.

Completely agreed. With internet streaming, it would be an awesome product. I understand that current technologies don't really make that possible, as services such as online have multi million $ data centers for this purpose.

But nvidia has to be completely out of their mind to think that in house PC streaming would be useful to a mass market. IT already requires a 300$+ GPU in your PC anyway....come on.
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This is a niche product intended mainly for the hardcore. Basically it's main selling feature is the ability to stream PC games, not to play Android games (you have the android games on smartphones/tablets). The lack of wide area network PC game streaming is what makes this product an epic failure. Even if Nvidia cut $100 off the price still this won't sell.

Pre-orders are already sold out for the first 2-3 batches...Care to try again?

I've Beta'd one and I really like it...Even for it's price point...Controls are a little wonky but, it's very similar to the Xbox 360 controller so, you'll get used to it rather fast.

It's basically a PSP only with "real games" as opposed to what's available...

Don't quite understand the hate but, playing Bioshock Infinite from my bed or while on the toilet -- Pretty awesome. Just sayin.
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Pre-orders are already sold out for the first 2-3 batches...Care to try again?

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It's basically a PSP only with "real games" as opposed to what's available...
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Real games. Apparently you haven't seen the vast majority of pitiful android games - Not quite sure if you're being serious.

Oh. My bad. Nvidia shield is designed for portable gaming while taking a dump. They should market that as a "feature". Nvidia shield, the way you're meant to take a dump? rolleyes.gif Too bad it can't stream beyond your household, though - that would actually be useful.
Edited by xoleras - 5/15/13 at 7:47am
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Nvidia, the way it's meant to be paid
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Real games. LOL. Keep telling yourself that.

I actually have possession of one so...I will.

So far, I can play Borderlands 2, BI -- Pretty much anything GFWL...Was rocking Skyrim this morning while taking a poop.

I don't really care if this product is for you or not but, selling the first 3 batches overnight is actually pretty remarkable.

It would be like selling an alpha/beta/gamma run of cards, overnight which, hasn't exactly happened before...So, you were saying?

Granted most of these units are going to retailers -- It's still a nice product for what it is.

I don't see a PSP playing Skyrim in HQ...I don't see a PSP playing BI in HQ...I don't see a PSP playing Borderlands 2 in HQ...

So once again, care to try again?
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