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I recently saw some review from Thermaltake NIC C5, Noctua NH U12S, NH U14S and in these review they tend to be at NH D14 LEVELS! are the new fans? is the new heatsink design? or all these few reviews are bad as they used to be(example tweaktown)
post #2 of 38
Its a combination of better fans and different heat-sink design. You got to remember though its not just about cooling performance but the noise as well. The D14 is optimized for very low flow (low rpm fans) and designed to be very quiet. Then there has also been a switch to 140mm fan optimized towers like the NZXT havik 140mm.

Even so the best coolers are still dual towers. Coolers like the Phanteks PH-TC14PE, Silver Arrow SB-E, Zalman CNPS12X.
    
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Its a combination of better fans and different heat-sink design. You got to remember though its not just about cooling performance but the noise as well. The D14 is optimized for very low flow (low rpm fans) and designed to be very quiet. Then there has also been a switch to 140mm fan optimized towers like the NZXT havik 140mm.

Even so the best coolers are still dual towers. Coolers like the Phanteks PH-TC14PE, Silver Arrow SB-E, Zalman CNPS12X.

That`s no true...NH D14 Is a low-resistance heatsink for high-static pressure

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http://www.overclock.net/gallery/data/500/Cooling_and_SPL_Results_for_NH-D14_P14_LNA_arr_by_TOA.png
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U12S is kicking butt. Should get mine today. Bye bye stock cooler, hello 4.6+ GHz! biggrin.gif
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U12S is kicking butt. Should get mine today. Bye bye stock cooler, hello 4.6+ GHz! biggrin.gif
+NF F12 = drool.gif
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+NF F12 = drool.gif

LOL, yes. The asymmetry of just one fan is abhorrent. tongue.gif Adding a second only dropped an additional 2°C or so in the reviews, but it didn't seem to add any noise, so works for me.
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post #7 of 38
U12S isn't really competing with twin towers. Stock CPU temps are similar but start overclocking and it quickly get's hotter than top twins.. but U14S competes with the twins even overclocking.. as do Archon SB-E SE and Prolimatech Megahelm to name a couple. That said the big twins will remain on top with only custom water really being significantly better. I expect a couple AIO like H220 to become more popular now too.
Edited by doyll - 5/14/13 at 9:15am
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U12S isn't really competing with twin towers. Stock CPU temps are similar but start overclocking and it quickly get's hotter than top twins.. but U14S competes with the twins even overclocking.. as do Archon SB-E SE and Prolimatech Megahelm to name a couple. That said the big twins will remain on top with only custom water really being significantly better. I expect a couple AIO like H220 to become more popular now too.
h220 is great
post #9 of 38
I suspect the reason is more frontal area, looks like U14s is wider like the Silver Arrow/Archon? Also the NF-A15 PWM seems to be quieter than NF-P14 FLX according to the charts but it spins to 1500 instead of 1200rpm

width = across pcie slots or facing fan , depth = along pcie slot:

Phanteks PH-TC14PE 140mm wide x 160mm high (170mm with fan), 134mm depth w/o fan and 159mm with fan (Ø8 mm - 5 heatpipe)
Thermalright Silver Arrow SB-E 154mm wide x 165mm high x 103mm w/o fan ... (6mm heatpipe x 8 units) Fin: T = 0.3 mm ; Gap = 2.1 mm Fin Pcs: 10 + 12 + 80 = 102 pcs
NH-D14: 140 mm wide, 160 mm high, 158 mm depth with fan (6 heatpipe: 6mm diameter?)
NH-U14S: 150 mm wide , 165 mm high, 52 mm thick (depth) w/o fan (6 heatpipe :6mm diameter?)
Thermalright Archon SB-E 155mm wide x 170.2mm high x 83.6mm w/o fan (6mm heatpipe*8 units) Fin: T = 0.5 mm ; Gap = 1.9 mm Fin Pcs: 28 + 6 + 5 = 39 pcs

TR Macho Rev A 140mm wide x 162mm high x 102mm depth w/o fan (6 heatpipe : 6mm) ... Fin: T = 0.4 mm ; Gap = 3.1 mm Fin Pcs: 31 pcs
TR True 140 155 wide x 170mm high x 53.4mm w/o fan (6 x 6mm heatpipe) .. Fin: T = 0.4 mm ; Gap = 2.0 mm Fin Pcs: 44 + 6 = 50 pcs
TR Macho120 120mm wide x 150mm high x 102mm depth w/o fan (5 heatpipe :6mm) ... Fin: T = 0.4 mm ; Gap = 3.1 mm Fin Pcs: 30 pcs
TR True 120M 132mm wide x 145mm high x 57mm depth w/o fan (4 heatpipe :6mm) .. Fin: T = 0.4 mm ; Gap = 1.8 mm Fin Pcs: 46 pcs
Phanteks PH-TC12DX 126mm wide x 57mm depth (107mm with dual fan) x 157mm high (4 heatpipe)
Noctua NH-U12S 125mm wide x 158mm high x 45mm depth wo/ fan (5 heatpipe : 6mm diameter?)


For Noctua/Phanteks don't know the fins per inch number or if they changed the material or heatpipe thickness/diameter

Phanteks single tower PH-TC12DX was within a few degrees of the NH-D14 so I'm not really surprised with a NF-A15 @1500rpm that U14S/U12S performs similar
Edited by AlphaC - 5/14/13 at 11:01am
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post #10 of 38
It might just be that the reviewers are terrible. There was one review I think on tweaktown where the H80i beat the h100i, which is obviously wrong.
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